I have got several scathing email about spam mail on the mailing list. First, I'd like to say I am an legitimate child, so naming calling of my mother is not very nice. :-P Second, yes, the email can be vulgar. Third, yes, we can block more of it. On point 3, I am putting it to the list. I can turn ORBS back on, but it seems to block lots of legitimate email. In fact several people sent email to me asking why ORBS bounced them. So, there it is. To ORBS or not to ORBS. Clay/Scott can you do a poll on the web site? List is open to discussion... -- Bob Tanner <tanner at real-time.com> | Phone : (612)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (612)943-8500 Key fingerprint = 6C E9 51 4F D5 3E 4C 66 62 A9 10 E5 35 85 39 D9