Im foaming at the mouth. I need to start my own business in a
city where they are located. We always get screwed here in
the midwest.

At 06:36 PM 2/19/01 -0600, you wrote:
>Yeah, where do I sign up?  Unless you're saying 3x the cost of one of Visi's
>business DSL lines which are like $400 something a month.  I can get a t-1
>from my house to just about any ISP in town for around $400 a month, but
>that doesn't include the ISP charges for bandwidth, that's only the charges
>from Qwest.  
>
>Too bad we don't have this here in MPLS:
>
>http://www.cogentco.com/home.html
>
>100Mbps fiber to your house for $1000/month.  Unlimited bandwidth, so you
>could saturate the line all day if you wanted.  I think you get a whole
>class C to play with too.  :)
>
>Jay
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jason DeStefano [mailto:destef at destef.com]
>> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 6:17 PM
>> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] <WAS backup> SLAs 4 DSL
>> 
>> 
>> Am I reading right? 3x the cost of DSL for a T1? Where do 
>> I sign up?
>> 
>> 
>> At 03:47 PM 2/19/01 -0600, you wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >Yes, I have to agree that DSL uptime can be real pain...when 
>> the company
>> >relies on that little copper pair as a "lifeline" to the 
>> outside world.
>> >We've got several clients who have DSL service from other 
>> providers and
>> >have us deal with the web site/e-commerce/marketing/consulting.  It's
>> >almost funny to have them explain how dependent they are on that
>> >connection and the fact they've given *no consideration* for a backup
>> >means of connecting to the 'net in the event of an outage.
>> >
>> >...then I go into the story about why we have a T1 vs a DSL....
>> ><begin alphabet soup>
>> >"No SLA for DSL" -- bad 
>> >"100% uptime SLA for T1" -- good <only about 3x the price too>
>> >
>> >mission critical and DSL don't go in the same sentence.
>> >
>> ><slaps forehead>
>> >sorry for rambling...it's a slow Monday
>> >
>> >MK
>> >
>> >
>> >On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 jeffr at odeon.net wrote:
>> >
>> >> 
>> >> Argh, don't get me started on Qwest (oops, looks like I 
>> just did).  They
>> >> dropped my DSL connection early friday morning (about 5:00 
>> judging by my
>> >> log files).  This was reported to them at about 8:30am.  
>> It took until
>> >> 5:00pm to convince them that there really was a problem 
>> and that it wasn't
>> >> on my end.  By then it was too late to do anything about 
>> it friday, so it
>> >> had to wait until this week.  Their current expected repair time is
>> >> tomorrow afternoon.
>> >> 
>> >> They absolutely refused to even look at the problem unless 
>> I was right
>> >> next to the router (a little Cisco 675) with a Win9x box 
>> connected to it.
>> >> Oh, and the Win9x box had to have their connection 
>> monitoring utility
>> >> installed on it, even though all the stats they were 
>> looking for are
>> >> available directly from the router itself.
>> >> 
>> >> It's really bad when you have to explain basic networking 
>> to the people
>> >> you have to call for support for your internet connection...
>> >> 
>> >> Jeff
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Shawn Fertch wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> > I have to admit that at this point in time, I'm glad 
>> that all of my data

>> >> > that absolutely "must" be backed up fits on a nice 100MB Zip disk
>> >> > (actually it totals about 25MB).  The rest of it, such 
>> as dowloaded
>> >> > program files and patches (damn windows crap) I download 
>> at work, burn
>> >> > to a CD-R or two and bring home to work.  That way I'm 
>> not spending
>> >> > literally days downloading at home on my pathetic 56k 
>> line.  Who knows,
>> >> > by the time my install date comes around (March 21st 
>> comes around) for
>> >> > ISDN, DSL will finally be available to me.  Not likely.  
>> Gotta remember,
>> >> > I'm dealing with Qwest.. 
>> >> > 
>> >> > Shawn
>> >> 
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