I have pppd installed on our server to dial on demant for windows 95 clients. Recently, I've noticed that the link is never going down and even when all the computers are off, pppd stays active. I ran trafshow and I keep seeing this line: unkn 192.168.254.1 224.0.0.13 30 unkn 192.168.254.1* PIM-ROUTERS.MCAST.N 60 Going down the ppp0 line. What is this? Our ISP recently made some server changes -- is this related. What is ths PIM-Routers.mcast.net server at 244.0.0.13? Why is the protocol unknown? I tried rejecting the conenctions with ipchains, but it doesn't work, I think because the protocol is unknown. Our machines are on 192.168.1.xxx How can I get our link to go down normally again? [root at server /etc]# /sbin/route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 192.168.1.1 * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth0 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo default 192.168.254.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 ppp0 Thanks, Ben