On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 02:37:40PM -0500, Austad, Jay wrote: > Ok, I'm moving into my new place soon, so I preordered a phone line. The > number that was there didn't qualify for DSL but was within range. They > said that it was probably because there was old line in the neighborhood and > they'd send someone out to replace some of the wire to try to get me to > qualify. So my new line is hooked up, I call the DSL office, and now I'm > magically 18,700 feet from the CO, several thousand feet farther than > before. They said the guy probably put me on another circuit or something, > and they won't change it for me. And then the guy said I was supposed to be > charged for the guy replacing the line so he tried to charge me for it, even > when the rep that set up my line in the first place said it was no charge. > > My brother ordered service at his apartment, and the guy on the phone said > he could get DSL for like $20, router for free, and all of the services like > call waiting for free too. He gets his first bill, and it's like $190. So > he called back, and the guy signed him up for some expensive DSL service, > all of those services were not free, they sent out the wrong modem (CAP, not > DMT), he never got the modem, they sent a new one which was broken. Then he > cancelled it all because he was sick of it, and they are still trying to > charge him for a modem he didn't get, and a modem that was broken when he > received it. And he complained about the guy that set up his service and > said all the stuff was free and the guy called him about 10pm one night and > left a nasty harrassing voicemail for him, which he now has a tape of for > the PUC to listen to. So now he has like this $400 bill for a month of > phone service, and they are being total assholes about refunding his money > for the modems and the DSL service which he never got a chance to use. > > Everytime I call those bastards I end up getting transferred at least 4 > times, they have menuing systems that just disconnect you when you choose > certain options or just forward you to numbers that aren't in service > anymore, My 2-year experience with this kind of menus: If at the first try you end up waiting too long or sent to a non-existing number dial again the main number and choose the option of "new customer/place order" (or along the same lines). 99% of times all the numbers are routed to the same operators, just you request is given a smaller priority if you choose complain or return. > I sit on hold for abysmally long periods of time, and everyone I > talk to is a total asshole (and I'm usually very polite with them). I spent > over 11 hours on my cellphone with them one month because they kept putting > me on hold, and the number I needed to call wasn't accessible from my home > phone (Qwest), go figure. There has to be a 1-800 number for that. If not send another complaint to the PUC. > Every single bill I have ever received from them > with the exception of one, has been incorrect. I've been charged for pager > and cellphone service that I never had, and my account once kept getting > transferred into someone elses name, 4 months in a row (same address, just a > different name). > > This isn't even half of it, Gee... I was deeply impressed so far... really. > I've been through so much crap with them that I > could probably sit here and type all day about all the things that they've > screwed up or failed to do, the rude phone reps, the incompetent phone reps, > and the billing mistakes each and every month for they last 3 years. > > And the worst part is, they're a monopoly in most areas. I can't get the > ATT cablephone, and it's a law that you have to landline 911 service in a > residential home, so I can't just keep my cellphone around. They just filed > with the FCC to increase their rates on DSL also. I'm stuck with them until > ATT gets their cablephone in my area. > > Qwest is the epitome of terrible service and if you have any problems with > Qwest, please file a complaint with the minnesota public utilities > commission: > MN Public Utilities Commission > 121 7th Place E. Suite 350 > St. Paul, MN 55101-2147 > Consumer Assistance/Information: 651/296-0406 > TDD/TTY (For Hearing Impaired): 651/297-1200 > Toll Free Dial 1 and Then: 800/657-3782 > General Information: 651-296-7124 > Fax: 651-297-7073 > > I heard Qwest actually gets fined $500 for each complaint, and the PUC just > assumes them to be true now because they get so many, no more > investigations, just a big fat bill. I don't know if this is true or not, > but anything I can do to hurt Qwest makes me feel good, it's revenge for > them causing me more trouble than any other company or person that I do > business with, including the IRS. > > Looks like I'm stuck with a cable modem (no hosting servers) unless I shell > out $1500 install + $400 a month for wireless from Implex.net, or $800 month > for a t1 (with a 2 year contract, blech..). Just make sure to follow up with PUC and push them to do their duty. florin -- "If it's not broken, is because you are not fixing it enough." 41A9 2BDE 8E11 F1C5 87A6 03EE 34B3 E075 3B90 DFE4