Bob, That is just it. I am running KDE. Aside from some stray GNOME apps I have no GNOME. My only Window Manager is KDE, although Red Hat sets it to GNOME as default. By all means it should work. In any case, I am wiping my Linux partitions and making a clean install tomorrow. That way the computer is virginal for Installfest. I'll bring all the stuff I want/need/suspect I need on a CD that should make it easier. For installfest it'll probably be ready to go with kernel 2.4.9-21 with all the latest updates from RH. Samir M. Nassar RedConcepts.NET