>>> Joel Rosenberg <joelr at ellegon.com> 02/07/02 01:29PM >>> On Thursday 07 February 2002 12:59 pm, Troy.A Johnson wrote: > >>>Quoting Joel Rosenberg (joelr at ellegon.com): >> And when would be a better time to persuade >> people not to use the "swiss cheese of emailers"? >When there's a viable alternative -- from their POV. Read Jerry Pournelle's >columns, for example. Jerry hates the flaws in Outlook, but he finds some of >its features unavailable elsewhere, and very handy. >If, say, Evolution could do the hard stuff -- handling of task assignments >and meeting requests -- it would be a viable alternative for a lot of folks. >Right now, it's just a nice email program that sort of looks like Outlook. >Ditto for sylpheed. I've read Pournelle, and while I do have some respect for him, I don't agree with everything he has to say. The message I'm getting is "Don't use the stick until you have a really good carrot to go with it". I don't agree. Let someone else grow and prepare the carrots, but bring on the sticks if you've got 'em. Soften 'em up. >> > and it is the standard. >> It is definitely NOT "the standard". >I guess we're arguing about definitions here. I do think that it is the >standard in the business world, for example, and that millions of people use it. >Is it good? Well, in many respects, no; in some respects, sure. Is it the >standard? Yes. Does it use the MIME standards by default? Nah. Yes. We mean very different things when we say "the standard". Is it the standard? No. >>Is vCal going to go anywhere soon? >I doubt it. If you look at where the heavy development in the open source >world is, it's not for point-and-click tools to make the life of business >users easier. As far as I know, vCal isn't about 'point-and-click' anything. It is a calendaring exchange format/protocol standard. It could be perverted into a data storage format for such information also, and so provide a backend to any calendaring program. vCard is it's well known cousin. >To take another, minor example, look at the difference between what's >available for PDAs in Windows apps -- let's not even discuss easily >available; I still can't get mail to synchronize -- vs. Linux. Don't know about that, myself. Maybe someone else does...