On 01.29.2002 09:00 Liz Burke-Scovill wrote: >Speaking with my Notes Admin hat - whyyyyyyy do you >have end users/illiterate users touching the admin >console!????? We have a few people here that at times need to get into the server room to start the Domino server if it has crashed during the night and one of us admins is not around to start it. No, we don't have a pager network for our servers, we don't have that much money. Plus, if they mess up the server, I have someone to blame anyhow. :-) The few people that we have selected for this job know mostly what they're doing, se we're not worried. >Again - I guess I don't understand why you need to >have a client on the server - realistically you >*shouldn't* be installing the client on the server on >any platform with R5, but that's another story. Other >than agents that need to run as server (which you can >schedule) most everything that needs to be done >*should* be able to be done remotely from any box on >the network, other than admin console work which still >can mostly be done remotely from the admin client. The reason we need a client on the server is for a security back door for those times when someone messes with a database ACL and locks everyone except localdomainservers from the database. Last time I checked, you can't unlock an ACL from the server console window. Besides, when you install the server, the client is already installed, you just need to run nlnotes.exe to access it. I do however recommend not running it on the server as a standard thing, it does make for an unstable environment and has been known to crash the server.