On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 03:21:56PM +0000, whisper wrote: > Also, how have people gotten Linux in the doors at companies like this. We > have very leary managers who still equate free software with cheap software, > no matter how much time I tell them otherwise. I'm currently lobbying to > get some distributions looked at to help preform specific tasks, such as > simple data entry, and then branch out from there. Getting it into server > positions is probably not going to happen, unless it will play _extremely_ > well with AD and NDS. Any other suggestions for how to get it brought in? Not a specific suggestion, but a general one: Don't approach the situation as if you are a Linux advocate, but rather that you think you have stumbled on a way to save the company time/money. Set up a scenario where you can go to someone and say, "Look, let's try this on the {1|5|50|whatever} workstations, because if it works it would be a way to save {$x boatloads}. If it doesn't work, we haven't lost anything." Just make sure to think it through before setting up a rigged bet. But when it works, the managers involved get to take at least part of the credit for the success. *That's* what it takes to get momentum going. It's not loyalty to M$ that has them where they are, it's fear of having *no* system that drives much of this, and no one really knowing where else to turn. That and business people authorizing IS purchases, when they aren't qualified -- but that goes back to the 50's -- DEC called their machines PDP (Programmed Data Processor) rather than computer, because people could order something called a PDP and get a purchase order, but "computer" meant "IBM." :) It's the same game -- "diplomacy is the art of letting other people get _your_ way." -- "Trying to do something with your life is like sitting down to eat a moose." --Douglas Wood