On Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 10:50:30PM -0500, Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote: >good riddance to the 'gcc-2.96' lunacy. One of the things I *really* don't >like about RH is their high-handedness about some things... like using their >own compiler and making a lot of people work to become compatible with >*them*, rather than the other way around. (all the patches they apply to the >kernel is another one). > >any way you cut it, RedHat is still a commercial entity... on the upside, >this means they can pay a bunch of people to do quality control. on the >downside, they don't have the customer's interests at heart, as much as >something like the Debian Project does. (and it shows. this is why RH won't >ship apt4rpm anytime soon... it competes with their revenue model). If you think the debian developers give a flying fsck what the users think you're on crack. If you think redhat does NOT give a flying fsck what thier users think, you're on crack. So what if redhat patches thier kernels, point your favorite ftp client at one of the kernel.org mirrors and have at it. When it all comes right down to it, redhat DOES pay people to do quality control and it shows. And for the record I've been using gcc-3.1 for quite a while and it's great (with the notable exception of some symbol munging which can cause problems if you have binary only stuff *jdk* that you wish to work with stuff you built from source *mozilla*) Cut redhat some slack, they're just trying to make a buck, they've given as much to the opensores community as they've taken. All in all, thier distro is the only one I truly trust on my servers (except for debian stable which is too old in most cases for what we need) though I'm a touch miffed that there's no recent ssh packages. -- Ben Lutgens | http://people.sistina.com/~blutgens/ System Administrator | http://www.sistina.com/ Sistina Software Inc. | "I got a wife and kids too but you don't see me out here stealing Imperial Droids now do ya?" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://shadowknight.real-time.com/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20020702/1d5a1f88/attachment.pgp