On Wed, 2002-07-17 at 22:01, Michael Piemonte wrote: > I'm signed up at St. Paul Tech for Linux System Adm. Its a brand new > program there it trains for your RHCE Cert. That is the only school I > found that offers Linux training. The real problem is that you also need to really get into the community. Just having a certificate doesn't exactly get the 'best' jobs automatically. Many of us here with nifty jobs got them partially because we were familiar and active in the community. We have knowledge of how the packaging and distribution systems work and how to work within those systems to create an overall managable system. Having a certificate saying you know how to use unix systems is nice, but having experience and/or time working with groups of machines in a 'system' is excellent. IMO, doubly so if your using free tools to do so and contributing back (in the form of 'tips' even, someone needs to put up a "all the cool shit you can do with cfengine" page) to the community. Grabbing 5-10 machines (somehow, 3 would probally be fine) and just playing with having a way to centrally manage machines that aren't exactly the same (different packages, different hardware, etc) is valuable time. Probally more valuable than learning arcane unix commands. The problem I have these days is that I wish I had more time to work on distribution-type-stuff at work. Not necessairly working on debian things, but just prepping the next release to get pushed out to machines. I originally thought I would have more time to do so and had gradiose ideas about how I could push out new software every 6 months or so. Then I messed around with stablizing a unstable snapshot. Its not impossible, it just takes a bit of time compared to just grabbing the newest release. Of course, this goes into an argument about release management and other ideas that wasn't really on topic anyhow. :) [for the record, I've only got one certification, the SAGE cSAGE certification, www.sagecert.org. I'll proally get mSAGE or whatever the next level up is when it comes out.] -- Scott Dier <dieman at ringworld.org> http://www.ringworld.org/