I do have a: proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 line in /etc/fstab. Also, I can go into proc and see its contents. Thanks for the help, I will keep trying. The one thing I did was enable the FTP service while in KDE. Maybe I should try to turn it off. That is the only thing that I changed on the system. Tom I can't say I've dealt with this problem personally, but if I had to, I'd look to see if /proc was mounted. What does ls /proc say? Do you have a line like: proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 in /etc/fstab? -- trammell at el-swifto.com 9EC7 BC6D E688 A184 9F58 FD4C 2C12 CC14 8ABA 36F5 Twin Cities Linux Users Group (TCLUG) Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list