don't know if it is available here, but i had speakeasy in Cleveland Ohio for years and loved it... no crappy pppoe either! I had a regular DSL modem. (it didn't get the IP address) www.speakeasy.net On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 13:34, Adam Maloney wrote: > On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 12:27, Mark Courtney wrote: > > >From my shopping experience, if you get only a single static IP, the IP > > belongs to the dsl router. This can still be useful if you do port > > forwarding with the dsl router and forward the ports to a machine > > internally. This feature may or may not be supported by your current dsl > > router. > > > With most DSL nowadays, the router is doing PPP, so it gets the IP > address. The cisco's and ActionTec's (used with Qwest-based DSL) can > handle NAT or routing a block of IP's. So if you need a real, public > internet IP, and the cisco's port-forwarding features won't work, then > you'll need to pay your ISP for a block of IP's. > > I've heard of people that have put the cisco into bridging mode (just > using it as an ATM->Ethernet bridge), and ran PPP through it from their > (Linux) PC (hey, this thread just became On-Topic!) This is probably > VERY unsupported with most ISP's though. And I'm not sure what > equipment Frontier is using, but I'd bet it's not the Cisco 600 series. > But maybe you (Troy) can find a way to do this using your equipment. > > Actually, there is an ISP in town that does DSL through TDS Telecom > (a.k.a. Bridgewater, in Monticello/Big Lake). Their customers buy a > speedstream DSL modem (NOT a router), and run the built-in WinXP PPP > client (for those customers that have XP), which handles the > authentication/IP assignment. > > > > If you want a single usable static IP for a computer on the LAN side of > > the router, I think you might have to get a block of 8 IPs (5 are usable). > > I'm not a Cisco wizard, so if I'm wrong here, my feelings won't be hurt > > if somebody corrects me. > > > > I'm just tryin' to share some knows in hopes that somebody will gimme an > > answer to my "sendmail time warp" thread. > > > > > > Mark Courtney > > > > http://www.MarkCourtney.com > > > > __ > > +|oo|+ > > +|oo|+ > > || > > || > > || > > || > > || > > || > > _ || _ > > \\_||_// > > | [] | > > | || | > > / [] \ > > \______/ > > > > > Hi List, > > > > > > I have been using Covad DSL very happily for a year and > > > a half at 1.5mb/128kb for $50/mo. I would like to get a > > > static IP address for a few reasons, so I looked at their > > > upgrade options. I can get 1.5mb/256mb and 1 static IP > > > for $70/mo, but I have been told I have to use their NAT > > > (on the DSL router). This is NOT what I want. For $80/mo > > > I can get the same bandwidth and 5 static IPs and not > > > have to use their NAT. That and they say I have to cancel > > > my current DSL, and when it is "totally cancelled" they can > > > order the new service (which I interpret as "there will be > > > a delay between the end and start of the services, and > > > we don't know how long that will be"). > > > > > > Now, that may be true, but it make me want to look for > > > other options. I looked at speakeasy.net, and they look > > > nice, but I wanted to ask here first: > > > > > > Is there anybody using a DSL service with a static IP at > > > around this price range and do you like it? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Troy > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list