Sam, I am a newbie lurker, but also a vet. From what I have seen so far, this list is a good one to both get sh** from and to share grief with. Please accept my condolences. I share Matt"s sentiments. _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list