From mnsan11 at earthlink.net Sun Feb 16 22:39:38 2003 From: mnsan11 at earthlink.net (Elvedin) Date: Mon Jan 17 12:35:48 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Dual Processor Systems Message-ID: Although this isn't necessarily a Linux question, I know this would be a good place to come and ask about which dual processor solution would be the best? Since I administer a fairly busy web site (my, ahem, picture galleries) and I've noticed quite a large load over the last few days, 5k hits each day for last 5 days, 12k Feb. 15th, and seen how my computer managed the load, I decided I finally need a new server system. Although page generation times took about 5 seconds, that's pretty good for my system. A 75*8*MHz Duron with 256MB of PC133 RAM, running several servers (Apache, Apache-SSL, ProFTPd, MySQL, SSHd, exim) serving out pretty much just PHP pages, with mod_gzip compressing all of the content and XF86 with Mozilla and XMMS running pretty much all the time, I would think this box handled it quite well. This system has served me well for the last 2 years but I really need a good one. I am split between either a dual Pentium 3 or Athlon MP system. I am leaning toward the Athlon MP since that would be "the best bang for my buck" or $268 for two 1800+s. I've had some experience with a dual Pentium 3, at school, I've installed Mandrake on it a while back and put it under a kind of "simulated" load. 10 processes of 'top' refreshing every "0" seconds and all of the computers in the lab going on the SSL web site and refreshing as fast I can get to each computer and click the refresh button. I though the system handled it pretty admirably. Now it gets to where I'm sort of stuck. I haven't had any real experience with a Athlon MP system so I'm asking those who have. What are some issues you experienced, except the processor temp. related ones. What are the pros and cons over a dual P3 system? Stepping away from the processors, I am looking at which motherboards would some one recommend for each of the set of processors. For AMD, I was recommended to Tyan and it wasn't too helpful since it seems they're the only one making dual Athlon MP motherboards and they're pretty expensive too. Anybody else make motherboards for the Athlon MP? And which motherboard would be a decent (*cheap* but stable) one too? The price is a bit of an issue. I am willing to spend at least $700, no more, on the processors and motherboard together. Since RAM is pretty much dirty cheap, I'll go for at least 768MBs of either PC133 or DDR2100 and it will cost under $100. Next, I'll be shopping for T-1 since this Earthlink DSL connection with 15KB/s up isn't helping. Maybe later, I'm getting ahead of myself... _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list@mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From mnsan11 at earthlink.net Thu Feb 20 20:25:11 2003 From: mnsan11 at earthlink.net (Elvedin) Date: Mon Jan 17 12:35:59 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Mitnick in Minneapolis In-Reply-To: <1045791066.1143.21.camel@orlando> References: <1045791066.1143.21.camel@orlando> Message-ID: On Thursday 20 February 2003 19:31, you wrote: > Join us this May 14 & 15 at the Minneapolis Convention Center to > compare, contrast and develop your business strategies. > > Hear the World's Most Famous Former Hacker - A Captivating presentation > by Kevin Mitnick - The Art of Deception: Are YOU In Danger of Being > "Conned?" If you go to that meeting you sure will be "conned." (of your time, that is) Is it only me or does anyone else think Mitnick should just "STFU." All he did was break the law, he was in jail, and his out again. To me he is just another common criminal. > Mitnick illustrates why a misplaced reliance on security technologies > alone, such as firewalls, authentication devices, encryption, and > intrusion detection systems are virtually ineffective against a > motivated attacker using these techniques. Mitnick depeneded on these techniques because he had no real techincal knowledge. Why would anyone go to a meet or buy a book for that matter who's whole topic is pretending you're an important client and you need your password because either you changed and are too stupid to remember it or you're someone else important and "just checking" to be sure of something. > In building this body of knowledge, Kevin gained unauthorized access to > computer systems at some of the largest corporations on the planet and > penetrated some of the most resilient computer systems ever developed. > > www.strictlybusinessexpo.com Speaking of penetration and jail earlier... why doesn't Mitnick wear his pretty little pink tutu anymore? _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list@mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From bfriedman at excite.com Thu Feb 13 17:46:34 2003 From: bfriedman at excite.com (bfriedman@excite.com) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:04:05 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Question about AlphaServer Message-ID: <20020810050533.0C2F929A5D@xmxpita.excite.com> I have a Dec AlphaServer 300 4/266 that I want to put Linux on. It boots, although I dont have the root password for it. It has a cd and a built in ethernet port, so I was hoping to get it up and running using one of those for the installation. My problem is this: it doesn't have a hard drive. From the online specs I found, it has the following: Integrated Fast Narrow single edged SCSI-2 controller with DMA The internal connector is blue (if that means anything in the scsi world), and looks like a large IDE type connector - I didnt count the number of pins but its a lot ;) The hard drive options that originally shipped with this machine were: RZ26N - 1.05gb 8bit narrow 5400rpm drive RZ28L - 2.1gb 8bit narrow 7200rpm drive RZ29L - 4.3gb 8bit narrow 7200rpm drive I don't have a scsi cable for this machine, but I do have some old scsi drives from Sparc 5's This machine is supposed to have a 2mb L2 cache, and the ram is maxed on the box, so I would like to see what it will do, performance wise. Does anyone with scsi experience have any wisdom for me about where to find cables for this motherboard, and any suggestions on cheap hard drives? I dont feel like buying a new drive, because I dont have any scsi machines except the Sparc 5's, and they dont need another drive, anyway. Thanks, Brent Friedman ------------------------------------------------ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shadowknight.real-time.com/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20030213/7197d9f8/attachment.html From peter-clark at bethel.edu Thu Feb 13 17:51:46 2003 From: peter-clark at bethel.edu (Peter Clark) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:04:05 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Looking for Knoppix Message-ID: <200208112107.58758.peter-clark@bethel.edu> Would some kind soul with a fast connection and a CD burner (and preferably near Fridley) be willing to burn a copy of Knoppix for me? Mirrors can be found at http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html; the latest is KNOPPIX_V3.1-08-08-2002-EN.iso (please note the -EN; it also comes in -DE varieties as well, which, given my lack of German skills, would be a Bad Thing?) at this moment. We're a one car family, so I would only be able to pick it up in the evening. Am willing to repay with a blank CD-R, or cash equivalent. Please contact off-list. TIA, :Peter From wilson at visi.com Thu Feb 13 17:51:48 2003 From: wilson at visi.com (Tim Wilson) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:04:05 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] regexp in vim Message-ID: <20020812035107.GA12974@isis.visi.com> Hi everyone, Quick regexp question here. I've been looking around in various docs, but can't find the answer. I read my email using mutt with vim as my editor. In an effort to meticulously trim my posts (Hi Chewie :-) I often find myself wanting to cut all the text from where I've finishing typing down to my sig. Pressing the 'd' key followed by '/--' (no quotes) does this spendidly as long as there are no other sigs in the text to be trimmed. If I could instead match '--' followed by a carriage return and then a 'T' I think all would be well. But entering '/--\nT' doesn't work. What am I missing? -Tim -- Tim Wilson | Visit Sibley online: | Check out: Henry Sibley HS | http://www.isd197.org | http://www.zope.com W. St. Paul, MN | | http://slashdot.org wilson@visi.com | | http://linux.com From webmaster at foxkids.com Thu Feb 13 17:51:49 2003 From: webmaster at foxkids.com (webmaster) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:04:05 2005 Subject: [TCLUG] Happy Assumption Message-ID: <05979187898773.19546@pub5.inner-21cn.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shadowknight.real-time.com/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20030213/46250e51/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Looks like another web based powertool. Gotta love it.