IBM had a GRUB beginners tutorial, and I grabbed the PDF version of it. You can find it on IBM's web site or here: http://auditodd.home.comcast.net/Opensource/linux-grub-bootloader.pdf To be honest, I haven't gone through it yet, but I have read through it and it seems to be pretty good. GRUB with SuSE8.2 works great. Gerald Skerbitz wrote: > I've heard the recommendation of grub many times on this list and it's > inspired me several times to try to install it but I've been > unsuccessful. > > I find the interface to be a nightmare even if it is more powerful. > > The fact that the 3rd question in the FAQ is incomprehensible to a > newbie is a clue that there's a steep learning curve to getting to the > point where you can use grub effectively. > 3. Can I put Stage2 into a partition which is over 1024 cylinders? > > That's why I don't like grub. > > How about answering the question, "if I'm sitting at a grub prompt and > there's this list of lines of what? Comamnds? Options? Kernels? (it > doesn't say) What do I do?" It's not even in the FAQ. It's not presented > in any step by step way in the docs either. You have to read to the > bottom of the documentation to understand it. > > If my newbie admin is sitting at a boot prompt in lilo, I can tell them to > type linux init=/bin/sh > > You can do SOMETHING. Grub? Help me out here.....where is that > information? > > The lilo mini-HOWTO has (in this order) 1. a quick introduction, > 2.background info and standard install, 2. 1 where should I install it? > 2.2 how should i configure my ide hard drive and ..... > > 2.3 How Can I Interact at Boot Time? > > When you see the Lilo prompt, you can hit the <Tab> key to show the list > of possible choices. If Lilo is not configured to be interactive, press > and hold the <Alt> or <Shift> key before the ``LILO'' message appears. > etc... > > I say don't recommend grub to newbies. lilo is better understood and > better documented. Grub is for doing hard things. Installing it may be > easy but using it is not. They clearly make the hard possible and the > easy hard. > > I've composed a message like this many times and not sent it, but I just > wanted it heard on this list that grub, for me, is confusing and hard, so > if you find it confusing and hard, it might not be you -- it might be > grub. > > -- > Gerry Skerbitz > gsker at tcfreenet.org > > > On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Matthew S. Hallacy wrote: > > >>No offense, but perhaps you should avoid using obsolete software. >> >>install grub. (and if debian doesn't make that friendly enough, install >>something that does) >> >>As for B, decent distributions configure X for you (automatically most >>the time) during setup. >> >>On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 08:09:28AM -0600, Perry Hoekstra wrote: >> >>>A couple of new Debian user questions: > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > -- Todd Young 7079 Dawn Ave. E. Inver Grove Heights, MN 55076 _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list