I am guessing this is an apache or php problem. I have another tech I am trying to help. He has a redhat 8 box with apache 1.38 and squirrel mail 1.27. Infrequent users seem to be able to login just fine. More serious users get timed out and never, or very rarely get logged in. Apache error_log shows nothing except that things timed out. We thought it might be from mail box size, so we took the heaviest user and aced everything in his mailbox, but he still gets timed out. The website works fine. It seems to be just a squirrel mail thing. Any ideas what to look for? Raymond _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list