On Friday, Sep 5, 2003, at 21:20 US/Central, Sam MacDonald wrote: > I disagree about the "long fruitless thread" thing. OFF-TOPIC OFF-TOPIC Take this B.S. to some politics oriented mlist. > > Do we tolerate the idea that people with the same skills we have get > payed 1/5th what we get payed? > Just because they are in India or Brazil? > If we have a "World economy" why are the wages lower in India and > Brazil? > You need to understand that this is not about self center Americans/ > > This is about "right and wrong". > > This is about people who own large percentages of American > corporations and the corporations they are sending the jobs to in > other countries! > > Sam. > > Matthew S. Hallacy wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 01:11:18PM -0500, Sam MacDonald wrote: >> >>> OK, now lets not get upset with labor unions after all unions >>> represent workers. Believe me when I say that programmers and >>> everyone else who works in I/T are labor. We are the work force, by >>> definition the work force is labor. >>> >>> >> >> There are two kinds of unions: >> >> Unions who work for the employees to help insure their safety and fair >> treatment (labor such as coal mining, steel workers, railroad, etc) >> >> Unions who work to ensure that no matter how lazy, stupid, or >> incompetent >> their members are, they'll always have a job because if they don't, >> they'll >> all go on strike. (Rainbow foods and highway workers fall under this >> category) >> In an IT industry setting, I'm willing to bet it would be more of a >> category 2 union, seeing how there are plenty of incompetents out >> there >> who do nothing but leech the resources out of a company, and want >> protection >> from being fired for incompetency. >> >> Yes, moving phone support to $other_country is bad for the economy, >> but >> what do you expect when the general public doesn't care enough to show >> their feelings about it (by writing letters, or boycotting companies) >> >> FYI, AT&T/Comcast cable internet support is in Quebec, because they >> receive kickbacks for providing technical jobs there. >> >> With that said, this is totally off topic for the list, and is sure to >> spark a long fruitless thread. >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > -- Ben Lutgens http://us-admins.com/~blutgens/ US Admins, Inc System Administrator / Server Gumby _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list