My uncle use to say "If you don't like his bedside manner, sleep with em, then you'll really know!" :-D This is along the same line as "Don't criticize a man until you walk a mile in his moccasin's" :-) I've found my bedside manner with computers is sometimes best when I put myself in the other persons place first, then examine my response. Empathy is very important when helping people. My being simple minded is a vast help as well. I've long given-up trying to know anything that could be construed as smart because I always find someone else that knows more then I do, I admit that doesn't take much. Sometimes they are so smart I let them do the job. ;-) I've also found that working from the command line nets specific results. The same can't be applied when working with people, people are fragile. <shameless plug ~ could be trolling ~> This is Join Scouting Week and I have my Join Scouting Event tonight (Cub Scouts). If you have a Son between the ages of 6 and 11 this is the week to find a Pack and get your Son in to Scouting. I've camped with my Son 3 times this year and I expect to camp at least 2 more times before the end of 2003. I helped him learn about shooting BB guns, sling shots, and nature, I'm having more fun now then when I was a Cub Scout! http://www.joincubs.org and have your zip code handy # I know, they look like they belong on South Park... Now if your Son is over 11 it's Boy Scouts that you will need to find. I can help with that if you tell me the area where you live. I know a lot of Scout Masters from all over the Twin Cities. </shameless plug> YiS Sam. Tom Penney wrote: >I totally agree with that. My problem is how I let his bedside manner >affect me. If he would admit that there is more than one way to skin a >cat, and that his way may not be the only right way, it wouldn't bother >me so much. But as I said, thats _my_ problem. > > >On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 13:04, Ryan Ware wrote: > > >>I think a lot of David's do it this way posts are because he has been >>through it before and is trying to save you time and wasted effort. I think >>he is further along in Linux than 80% of the people on this list. You might >>not like his bedside manner, but that doesn't make him wrong. >> >> >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Tom Penney [SMTP:blots at visi.com] >>>Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 12:53 PM >>>To: TCLUG >>>Subject: Re: [TCLUG] [OT] Trolling >>> >>>I've come to the conclusion that it is just his personality. The tone of >>>his posts are annoying as hell to me. I have gone off on him as well. I >>>know what you mean. >>> >>>He has also posted some useful information as well and some genuine >>>attempts to be helpful. I find it fascinating why some of his posts piss >>>me off so much but I see that as my problem. He obviously is very bright >>>and knows his stuff but there is something about his attitude that gets >>>me riled. His "that sucks, this is better, your stupid if you don't see >>>that" attitude is really childish but I think he really believes what he >>>says to be true. >>> >>>my 2 cents. >>> >>> >>>On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 11:43, Jima wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I just thought I'd qualify my earlier claims regarding David Phillips >>>>with some references. >>>> >>>> It looks to me like he's been trolling at least once a month since May. >>>> >>>>http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/tclug-list/2003-May/056328.html >>>>http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/tclug-list/2003-June/056807.html >>>>http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/tclug-list/2003-July/057629.html >>>>http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/tclug-list/2003-July/058134.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/tclug-list/2003-August/058615.html >>> >>> >>>> Chewie himself called him down for the last one: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/tclug-list/2003-August/058624.html >>> >>> >>>> David's response gave some references, though: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/tclug-list/2003-August/058695.html >>> >>> >>>> And the most recent: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/tclug-list/2003-September/059530.h >>>tml >>> >>> >>>> *shrug* Just wanted to back up my accusations. If anyone thinks I'm >>>>overreacting, feel free to flame me off-list. >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Jima >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>>>http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>>https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>>> >>>> >>>-- >>>Tom Penney <blots at visi.com> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>>http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >> _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list