> drive way) and they stayed!? So I sat on the stoop and talked to them > for a few minutes trying to get them to leave. They wouldn't go so I sat Do they talk back? Do they tell you to *do* things? "We'll leave your yard if you KILL JOE" :) As someone mentioned eariler, urine does work to keep some animals out. I think some even judge the size of the "owner" based on how far up the scent is on the tree/fence/hydrant. I have a similar problem - trying to keep the guys from the meth lab across the street off of my fence in the front yard. Talking to them hasn't worked well in the past, but they run pretty quick when I let my 100-pound rott out. I swear, there is no scarier sound then to hear her growl. The most disconcerting is when you wake up to it at 2am in a haze of sleep. If I were a burglar, I'd be wearing my brown pants. We've also managed to keep most of the kids out of our yard. I brought home a live northern one day, and we made her eat it outside. The look on the neighborhood kids' faces as she devoured 26 inches of Northern Pike, head to tail, still flopping, was priceless. She ate the whole thing, teeth, bones, gills, fins - everything. They won't come near us. Adam Maloney Systems Administrator Sihope Communications _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list