Recent kernels will blink the keyboard LEDs on a panic. If the keyboard LED's aren't blinking its probably a hardware lockup. Although most panics are caused by hardware anyway if you're not running an experimental kernel... Might be a 2.6 thing. And probably 'legacy' i386 keyboard only. It was added so you could tell if the kernel has paniced when in X. _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota Help beta test TCLUG's potential new home: http://plone.mn-linux.org Got pictures for TCLUG? Beta test http://plone.mn-linux.org/gallery tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list