Yes yes yes, I've got XMMS happy. Just tossing out my first impressions on that issue. Yum and apt are both working now, both are far superior to up2date, which seemed to take an excessivly long time to complete updates. up2date has an annoying habit of asking about invalid GPG signatures, which I can understand. (And I could have fixed easily I know.) Irked me that up2date would be downloading, then pop up a box asking about a signature, then do nothing until I clicked No or OK. I'm in the habit of firing off an apt-get -dy upgrade and walking away while packages download, I might get around to installing them eventually. At least Fedora's up2date doesn't need a RHN account. So it's up, it's running, it works. Me being the lazy geek I am it'll probally just stay that way until I find something in Fedora that annoys me enought to try another distribution. :) Thanks all for the links, they were very helpful for someone new to Fedora but not new to Linux. Andrew S. Zbikowski | http://www.ringworld.org A password is like your underwear; Change it frequently, don't share it with others, and don't ask to borrow someone else's. _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list