> 
> On Sat, Jan 10, 2004 at 04:42:02AM -0600, David Schiff wrote:
> > For what its worth the DeadRat manuals state the reason they use a /boot
> > partition is so if you have file corruption on / you can still have pure
> > kernel to boot and fix things.
> 
> Was there a point?
Sorry I shouldn't mix threads that was a reference to when Callum Lerwick on Fri. 
said "I'm sure someone else will reply with some other justification for
/boot,..."
  
> > I ha a Dell Inspiron 11. It had this really nice feature of a one time
> > boot option, you hit f12 at start up and you get a menu of boot options.
> 
> I find this hard to believe, unless Dell did something really stupid like
> making F12 boot an alternative partition that runs a boot loader to pick
> the boot device.. My cheapie PC Chips motherboard lets me press F8 and
> gives me the option to boot from any device on the system (even USB CF 
> adapters)
I believe it's a part of the bios and possibly Dells spacial 34 MB
utility partition.
> > I installed Fedora core w/Grubb on mbr now not only wont this feature
> > work (which is not surprising) but Grubb kicks in before I can boot a cd
> > or dvd no matter what the bios boot order is set to. To boot from cd I
> > have to dissable boot from hd in bios.
> 
> Odd, have you tried updating your BIOS?
It's a new toy w/latest version.
> > Is there a HOWTO to create a boot from cd munu option ror Grubb like the
> > boot from floppy option on Mandrake's LILO setup? 
> 
> Doubtful

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On Sat, 10 Jan Samuel MacDonald wrote;
Is the F12 the option that puts you into the machines setup?
Many manufacturers use this Compaq, Dell, Micron, and others.  It's a 
partition from 10 - 30 megabytes that contains programs for 
configuration, hardware testing, remote administration, etc...  Most 
machines can live without this but it's a good thing to have if you have
a hardware problem. This is not exclusive to laptops. Compaq has long 
used it in Servers and Desktops.

** It's not the whole setup just a menu of one time boot options. **

I remember this happening to someone else but it was a long time ago.  
The person let Red Hat do the automatic partitioning, it erased the 
setup partition.  The only way "I" know how to fix it is to rebuild the 
whole thing. Some smarter LUGer may have a way to work around it.

You will need to setup and diagnostics disks from the manufacturer.  
When you setup Red Hat you will need to manually partition the drive to 
be sure the setup partition remains on the disk.

This should be a topic at an Install  Fest.  I can do a setup partition 
clinic on a Compaq if anyone is interested.

Sam.

** Thanks, but I just did all that stuff last weekend, at first I tried
to install Mandrake 9.2 but DiskDrake would not resize the ntfs
partition to less than 33%. I have a 60 GB disk but I only planed to use
10 GB for XP and I like Vfat better so I wiped the whole thing and
reinstalled XP and all the Dell util's and drivers and included software
on a 10 GB Vfat partition. That made me appreciate the ease of modern 
Linux installs! I think I'll just disable hd in bios if i want to boot
from cd or else bone up on user linux so I can run Linux on Linux.******




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