Ugh, every time I turn around I have to do something else that's all funky or undocumented or a big long process just to get the simplest things working with linux, it's slowly driving me insane. THIS IS A VENT THREAD. I'M NOT LOOKING FOR HELP, I'M NOT INTERESTED IN WHAT I'M DOING WRONG, I JUST WANT TO BITCH. I'm trying to get backuppc working, just so I can backup the damn server, and it's like pulling teeth. First the perl modules won't compile, which took 6+ hours to solve, then I can't figure out whether I have mod_perl installed or not, and even if I do it's telling me to change the init.d script and expecting that I magically know what's supposed to be changed??? WTF??? I'm supposed to be a programmer now too? The other option is recompiling perl, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A BUNDLE OF FUN! This is all AFTER I managed to get odbc access to mssql 2000 and access files, lemme tell you that was a good time! Sometimes linux really impresses me, and sometimes I can't believe anyone could consider this a mature server platform. It *almost* makes me want to pay out the nose for M$ crap. (though I wouldn't get any support from them either! AND I'd have to learn ASP, fuck that.) I'm sad I missed the beer meeting, and I wish I'd be getting home before 8pm tonight. Matt _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list