If you continue to see ugly things when trying to connect php and MS SQL Server, here is a kludge I have used in a similar situation: Use a java wrapper class and jdbc driver to handle the interaction. The only trouble I had was passing BLOBs, but I just made a special wrapper to deal with them specifically. Probably not portable, but it might get you up and running more quickly than researching the other options. Brent Friedman _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list