someone to demonstrate KDE to a bunch of Windows users. This is a simple first-step, but it doesn't really teach them anything about Linux, othen than the fact that it can put on a pretty face. This is analogous to the idea that learning Windows doesn't really teach you anything about DOS. The major difference of course, is that in the Microsoft world, the DOS prompt is (now completely) deprecated, and in Linux, the command prompt is the central aspect that ties together all Linux distributions, and links Linux to the big world of Unix and Unix-like operating systems. That all said, I'd love the opportunity to give your Windows users a good healthy dose of Linux indoctrination ;) -.bill.layer.- .-frogtown.mn.usa.- .-Microsoft.Windows.XP.- -.suddenly.everything.sucks-.