slushpupie at gmail.com wrote: >On 5/24/05, Richard Hoffbeck <rwh at visi.com> wrote: > > >>Jima wrote: >> >> >> >>>On Tue, 24 May 2005, steve ulrich wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>hmm - i have the same password on possibly thousands of boxes. i'll >>>>have to get the NIS+ admins on that pronto. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>And if someone managed to get root on one of those NIS+-managed machines, >>>they'd be able to get to your encrypted password, right? Right? >>>Slightly different subject, IMO. >>> >>> Jima >>> >>> >>> >>> >>I think its pretty easy to argue that passwords, at least passwords >>alone, are an idea whose time has come and gone. I've recently gone >>through a bunch of the various password checkers, PAM modules, etc. and >>it certainly appears that they impose sufficient restrictions on what >>constitutes an acceptable password that they actually make the resulting >>passwords more vulnerable to brute force attacks. If you look at the >>reduced keyspace that comes from requiring specific character classes, >>the elimination any passwords that contain character strings of 3 >>characters or more that appear in any of the specified dictionaries, and >>just the psychology of memory it seems like you should be able to build >>a smart password cracker to exploit those enforced weaknesses - maybe a >>project for the summer :-) >> >> > >Now that we are not on the same topic anymore- The whole idea behind >Kerberos solves both the original problem and the one stated above. >Simply put, your password never goes accross the network, and you can >log into any system in your realm by logging in once (single sign-on). > Yes, it is much more complicated to set up, but if you are managing >400+ systems, you likely have a complicated infrastructure in place >already. Of course, migrating to kerberos after you have 400+ systems >set up is non-trivial. Its easier to start from the ground up on that >one. > > I've only got a dozen users so its hard to justify Kerberos for other than intellectual curiousity - so it might get done anyway. --rick