It's not stealing. It's piracy, comparable to murder, rape and plundering! ----- Original message ----- From: "queasyfish" <queasyfish at yahoo.com> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 06:34:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Poll topic- I use linux because... Good Morning; You guys crack me up - this is a conversation for fun, right? ;) It seems pretty clear to me: Developers/companys make software products to sell. If you use the products without paying for them you are stealing them. I'm stealing them, I clearly realize that. -doesn't matter if you think the software costs too much -doesn't matter if you think the company is trying to crush the competition though any means necessary (of course they are they're running a business) -doesn't matter if you think software should be free (speech or beer) -doesn't matter if you would or wouldn't have purchased the software if you hadn't stolen it. The only difference between stealing Bill Gate's software and his car is if you steal his car both of you can't drive it to work. - and perhaps that's a significant difference, but it doesn't change the fact... that it's... still... stealing. So, stealing being a fact, ask yourself: What would Bill rather have you, the computer enthusiast, doing - using stolen Windows XP or growing and promoting LInux? John markring40 at ippimail.com wrote: I understand your point. I just disagree with you. Because I disagree doesn't mean I don't understand. Or that I am incapable of understanding. I agree to drop the discussion. We are just beating a dead horse. > On Wed, 6 Sep 2006 markring40 at ippimail.com wrote: > >>> No! The company has simply endured 998,000 violations of their license >>> agreement, something they can create and enforce based on copyright. >>> You may think that translates into the loss of $499M, and Mike may not. >>> While I think the company may be owed $499M by those who violated their >>> license, it is money they never had and in reality were never likely to >>> make. >> >> According to whom? I don't believe you've ever owned or managed a >> business. If someone uses a product you created and they have never >> paid for it; as the owner of that company you would most definately call >> that a loss. > > I think it's fair to say that you just don't understand our point. So I > think we should drop it because either you don't want to understand or you > are unable to understand. What we are talking about has nothing to do > with whether you have create software and it has nothing to do with laws. > It also has nothing to do with what a company will call a loss. If you > would read my earliest post with the 998,000 in it, maybe there is hope > that you will understand what I was saying, but I doubt it. > > Mike > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Get a free email address at http://www.ippimail.com and support your favorite charity without it costing you a penny. Now with 200mb storage and Google-powered search! Feelgood email! _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list --------------------------------- All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster.