Right but in essence you are paying twice as Qwest steeply discounts their service. What you are paying for is service, support, a static IP, and no inbound restrictions whatsoever. So no hidden rate limiters, not limits on running any type of server at home, or in my case no limits on doing vulnerability scans from home (for work, all legal and approved of course). So if you want to be able to pick up the phone and talk to someone who knows what they are talking about and can actually hop on the router and check IPHouse is the way to go. If you want to run mail and web and whatever at home, get IPhouse. If you want to do massive file sharing go with IPHouse. If you don't care about that go with Qwest. And if you do go with IPHouse tell them *I* sent you :) (yes I get a free month) --j Erik Anderson wrote: > On 6/6/07, Benjamin Gramlich <benjamin.gramlich at gmail.com> wrote: > >> What are the advantages, then, of paying twice for the same service? >> > > Technically, you're *not* paying twice for the same service. You're > paying Qwest a fee for usage of their copper and for routing your > traffic over their ATM network to IPHouse. Then...you pay IPHouse a > fee for the actual internet service. > > -Erik > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >