I'm just wrapping up the install of "etch" on a net4501 device I've had lying around for a while... http://www.soekris.com/net4501.htm It's nice to see that one can still fit a base install into <200MB: # df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda2 900M 193M 661M 23% / This wee beastie is destined to be a nice, quiet firewall in a closet somewhere... :-) Pax, JT -- trammell at el-swifto.com 9EC7 BC6D E688 A184 9F58 FD4C 2C12 CC14 8ABA 36F5 Twin Cities Linux Users Group (TCLUG) Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota