Now that you mention it, I remember JPilot. I second that recommendation. Figuring out the quirks to get your Palm detected is usually the worst part. I always felt that syncing in using OSS software on Linux was better than syncing with Palm's software on Windows. These days I've mostly written off smart phones as a dumb idea (still have and use two of them), but that's a rant for another day and another place. ;-) -- Andrew S. Zbikowski | http://andy.zibnet.us SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue >0; 0 rows returned