TCLUG, Thanks for the responses so far. The Outlook client is from 2000 so I think it is time for a change. Also, groupware features would help office functionality. Yes I would like to go web based app. Now we have to vpn into our network and use a vnc to access our email from the outside. Our hosting is with our cable internet provider. As far as spam, the service has been excellent and I am not interested in changing this. I would like to download the email from this provider and put them on the server as an imap to the client app. Is it a good idea to be saving emails??? I looked at the suggested Horde Groupware and this has potential as I already have a Ubuntu server running in the office. The Zimbra would require a standalone server, which may have its own merits. In the experimenting stage, so can try different things and hopefully have online by our spring season. Tom Thomas Rieff GreenCare 1717 3rd Avenue Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 344-8314 Office (507) 344-8316 Fax (507) 381-0660 Cell Your question to me looks like "Is replacing a standalone MUA with a full fledged Groupware implementation a good choice?". I guess I have a question for you, what is the desired outcome of replacing outlook/what do you want to be able to do? From the bit I understood it looks like you want to be able to access your e-mail wherever using a MUA, and be able to access e-mail via a web based implementation. This by itself is fairly easy setup of Postfix (MTA) -> Courier IMAP(S) -> Web based MUA (Roundcube). (I know others may like other MTA's and IMAP servers). I have wanted to give Horde Groupware a go (http://www.horde.org/webmail/) but I haven't gotten around to it. I have never used Zimbra before so I cant really say whether or not that it the way to go. I'm fairly scared of Google so unfortunately I usually dot recommend them (IMO). -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments