On 08/31 10:20 , Daniel Taylor wrote: > ed lives on, though to my knowledge nobody uses it outside of vi colon mode. I do remember some years ago, when Linux on S/390 mainframes was a new and buzzworthy thing, reading the mailing list for it and seeing a greybeard recount solving a problem with a broken terminal emulation (S/390s not having a real 'console', and especially not having one that acted like anything more than a teletype) wherein he said something like 'I remembered enough of ed from the days before vi to edit the file and fix the problem'. I think I might even have done the same thing or something similar to solve the same problem once, when I was playing with Linux for the S/390 using the Hercules emulator. Every once in a while, knowing how to solve a problem the hard way comes in handy. -- Carl Soderstrom Systems Administrator Real-Time Enterprises www.real-time.com