http://www.qwest.com/#offers Put in your phone number and see if they offer you the 40Mb/20Mb service. On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Adam Morris <adam.morris at redstargaming.net> wrote: > Excuse me if this was already mentioned, but I deleted a bunch of messages from this thread earlier. Is there some way to find out if Qwest has VDSL in Eagan yet? > > -Adam > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 02:02:09PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote: >> Precisely. I'm not willing to pay for a service that isn't up to snuff because of their hardware needing an upgrade. >> >> Qwest's installation technician and customer support we're more than cooperative with this tech's findings. >> >> On Jul 19, 2010, at 1:57 PM, Nate Carlson wrote: >> >> > Ahhh, got'cha - so that points to the issue being with Qwest.net getting >> > your traffic out of the area at a reasonable speed (if you get good speeds >> > from that link, assuming it's actually doing a speedtest and not just >> > looking at your account, it means that the chokepoint is behond that >> > point..) >> > >> > On Mon, 19 Jul 2010, Ryan Coleman wrote: >> >> I ran this one: http://minneapolis.speedtest.qwest.net/ >> >> >> >> Which was what the technician ran that gave me the 16Mbps speed. As you >> >> can see in the data block there is only one other test provider that got >> >> that high: auditmypc.com. >> >> >> >> Comcast speeds >> >> Site Down Up >> >> Speedtest 22.01 2.66 >> >> Speakeasy 5.10 2.62 >> >> bandwidthpalce 12.23 2.35 >> >> auditmypc 20.87 3.51 >> >> internetfrog 5.09 1.53 >> >> DSLreports 22.15 2.55 >> >> toast.net 4.56 NA >> >> visualware.com 9.37 2.58 >> >> testinternetspeed 1.71 2.02 >> >> whatsmyip.com 20.67 2.46 >> >> AVG 12.38 2.48 >> >> Qwest SpeedTest >> >> 24.89 2.505 >> >> Diff -12.61 -0.25 >> >> -50.6% -0.99% speed loss. >> >> >> >> Qwest speeds >> >> Site Down Up >> >> Speedtest 2.59 0.72 >> >> Speakeasy 4.17 0.73 >> >> bandwidthpalce 2.67 0.70 >> >> auditmypc 18.26 0.76 >> >> internetfrog 0.80 0.60 >> >> DSLreports 2.88 0.69 >> >> toast.net 0.75 NA >> >> visualware.com 2.09 0.72 >> >> testinternetspeed 1.88 0.70 >> >> whatsmyip.com 6.62 0.71 >> >> AVG 4.27 0.70 >> >> Qwest SpeedTest >> >> 16.64 0.78 >> >> Diff -12.37 -0.08 >> >> -74.3% -10.3% speed loss. >> >> >> >> I hope this is more legible for you guys... I know the Comcast does "speed boost" bursting which can account for some of the fluctuation, but the DSL should be a steady, consistent speed. >> >> >> >> There was nothing else plugged into the DSL or Phone system except for the modem itself. It's not a perfect experiment - that would be a reboot of each system and waiting 30 minutes between tests, something that with 10 downloads to test would have taken days to complete. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Ryan >> >> >> >> P.S. Nate - I know about overhead, even giving them 30-35% just to be nice; I've been a network technician for years in Windows, Mac and various flavors of *nix for the last ten years, and I was an early adopter of DSL in 1999. This is more a showing people my experiences with their "FIOS" connection which is a false advertising lead, IMHO, and fails to inform the consumer that the upload speeds are NOT proportional to the download speed. >> >> >> >> P.P.S. I ran the internet connection at my "office" aka cafe I like and they get 38.23 Mbit down and 7 Mbit up. Consistently. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:57 AM, Nate Carlson wrote: >> >> >> >>> which speedtest engine is faulty? >> >>> >> >>> The rates that the providers quote for speeds (for ADSL at least) are the >> >>> maximum rates that your line can sync up at. You may be sync'ing at that >> >>> speed, or at lower speeds (your DSL modem/router should be able to show >> >>> those stats.) Because of overheads, you will never get the exact speed >> >>> they advertise - it will be slightly lower.. if you read the fine print it >> >>> generally states that the speeds are maximum, not guaranteed, etc. >> >>> >> >>> I do agree that it looks like you are getting horrible speeds with Qwest - >> >>> it could be a number of factors (ie, poor line conditions on your end, a >> >>> dslam without enough backhaul connectivity, oversold connectivty at >> >>> Qwest.net, etc); you could try a different ISP if you want to keep DSL >> >>> (since you are on an ADSL tier you can pick your ISP), which would >> >>> eliminate Qwest.net from the picture.. but from my view if you are happy >> >>> with cable then keep it! :) >> >>> >> >>> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Ryan Coleman wrote: >> >>>> All of this is BEYOND my point: Their speedtest engine is faulty. It >> >>>> claims speeds that it is *not* producing. >> >>>> >> >>>> I checked my cable line and the DSL line against a number of other test >> >>>> providers, here are the results: >> >>>> >> >>>> Speedtest Speakeasy bandwidthplace auditmypc.com internetfrog DSLreports toast.net visualware.com testinternetspeed whatsmyip.com >> >>>> >> >>>> Down Up Down Up Down Up Down Up Down Up Down Up Down Up Down Up Down Up Down Up >> >>>> Qwest 2.59 0.72 4.17 0.73 2.67 0.70 18.26 0.76 0.80 0.60 2.88 0.69 0.75 >> >>>> 2.09 0.72 1.88 0.70 6.62 0.71 >> >>>> Comcast 22.01 2.66 5.10 2.62 12.23 2.35 20.87 3.51 5.09 1.53 22.15 2.55 4.56 >> >>>> 9.37 2.58 1.71 2.02 20.67 2.46 >> >>>> >> >>>> All speeds are reported in Megabits (Mbps), some are calculated from Kilobits per second. >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> Ryan >> >>>> >> >>>> On Jul 17, 2010, at 4:25 PM, Nate Carlson wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Just a bit of clarification - 20mb/896kbps is *not* FIOS - Qwest >> >>>>> advertises this as "Fiber optic fast", but what it really means is that >> >>>>> they run fiber to the DSLAM that serves your line. 20mbit/896kbit is >> >>>>> ADSL2+. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Qwest does offer VDSL in certain parts of the metro, which is available at >> >>>>> speeds of 40mbit/20mbit, 40mbit/5mbit, and also adds a 5mbit upstream >> >>>>> option to 20mbit, 12mbit, and 7mbit tiers. If you got 896k upstream, >> >>>>> however, you are ADSL2+, not VDSL. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> As far as I know Qwest does not have any plans to roll out a real >> >>>>> fiber-to-the-home option - it's all fiber to the 'neighborhood' with >> >>>>> various technologies running over copper to deliver the service. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> (Of course, Qwest does offer fiber services to businesses, but it's quite >> >>>>> a bit more money than we're talking for DSL.. *grin*) >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Fri, 16 Jul 2010, Ryan Coleman wrote: >> >>>>>> 20Mbit. Which comes with an unreported upload cap of 896Kbps. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> But I'm probably calling them on Monday to tell them to pick everything up and take it back; Ran my own speed test through speedtest.net and the reported download speed was 3.2-4.5 Mbps. Same website on my cable modem reported 25+ Mbps on download. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> Ryan >> >>>>>> On Jul 16, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Donovan wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Ryan Coleman <ryanjcole at me.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> I'll probably only end up cutting one of the two cable internet lines into my apartment... >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> 16Mbit download -- pretty nice >> >>>>>>>> 600Kbit upload -- not so nice >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Ran a speed test on our "public" cable line at home and got 30Mbit down and 3Mbit up. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Setting up a static IP on the Qwest website appears to be nearly impossible, that's a shock. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>>> Ryan >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>>>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> >>>>>>>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> >>>>>>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Which package did you get? >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>> Donovan Niesen >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> >>>>>>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> >>>>>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> >>>>>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> >>>>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> >>>>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> >>>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> >>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >> >> >> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > -- Donovan Niesen