Are we learning worthless garbage by learning frameworks ? I'm Doing C# development now and I like C and its simple uses. I also like staying close to the machine when I code. I look at ruby and wonder if it is worth learning? And I tried iron ruby and its SLOW very slow. Looking back what has been the biggest change in programming but moving higher levels and more and more frameworks? It is supposed to increase development time, but how much C/C++/C#/Objective C could you write in that time? What do you think is better time invested writing web applications In a C variant or using html5 css3 JavaScript and php,perl,python/ruby? I do enjoy python from time to time. Thanks, Ron