If anyone wants an Android Tablet, make me an offer on my Viewsonic GTablet. It is nice & has good third party firmware already loaded. There is a port of ICS (aka Android 4) to it but I haven't gotten around to it. I have a really nice dock that cost me $50 extra which makes a good drop-in charging stand and gives Ethernet, HDMI, et al ports for it. Since I got an iPad, it has just been collecting dust. It is destined for Craigslist or eBay, but I'd give a price break against fair market value to another TCLUG person. Thomas ps. Hope no one minds the ad too much ;-) On May 10, 2012, at 3:58 PM, ron at ron-l-j.com wrote: > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 03:39:50 -0500 (CDT) >> From: Mike Miller <mbmiller+l at gmail.com> >> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Ubuntu in the news >> Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1205100330410.22297 at taxa.psych.umn.edu> >> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed >> >> On Thu, 10 May 2012, Yaron wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 10 May 2012, Mike Miller wrote: >>> >>>> That's fair, but did you believe this part of the article?: >>>> >>>> "Eight to ten million units shipped last year world-wide. >>> >>> It's not so much that I don't belive it, but... well, have YOU seen a >>> computer that had shipped with Ubuntu pre-installed? >> >> No, but that's world-wide and I think the EU countries and India are both >> much more accepting of Linux than is the corporate-dominated USA. >> >> >>> A few years ago with the whole netbook thing going on, a lot of those >>> shipped with Linux. Then that just died off. Then the whole netbook >>> thing died off. So I dunno. >> >> Again, it might be different in Europe and Asia. >> >> I think the Ubuntu 12.04 on my Asus netbook would be pretty hard to beat. >> If people just knew how to use it, they would love it. >> >> What is the attraction of the iPad, anyway? I see why it is good for >> reading -- very good, probably (I haven't used one) -- but for most of the >> stuff I do, which involves a *lot* of typing, it is not appealing to me. >> The netbook is just about right -- small/light enough, fits in front of me >> on the plane, and has great battery life (now with hibernation!). It's >> great for typing and for watching movies -- presumably better than iPad >> which doesn't hold itself up for viewing or have a keyboard for typing. >> I still can't believe the killer netbook I got for my daughter at Costco >> for $250 back in November -- way cheaper than iPad. >> >> Mike > >> Message: 3 >> Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 03:52:48 -0500 (CDT) >> From: Yaron <tclug at freakzilla.com> >> To: TCLUG <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Ubuntu in the news >> Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1205100343120.2422 at Dragon> >> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed >> >> On Thu, 10 May 2012, Mike Miller wrote: >> >>> What is the attraction of the iPad, anyway? >> >> Whoa, how did we get to THAT? (: >> >> Disclaimer: I don't have an iPad. I do, however, have an HP Touchpad and >> an Amazon Kindle, both of which are running the latest version of Android, >> both of which - put together - cost less than half of what an iPad does. >> And I woudln't have got either of them without the huge discounts I >> managed to get. >> >> I think tablets are good for... less-interactive computing than a, you >> know, real computer. Yeah, you touchthem and move stuff around, but I >> wouldn't want to type anything longer than a really short email on them. >> Although considering how good voice recognition is getting on Android it >> may well be an option soonish. >> >> However, I can't use a netbook for anything serious, either. Even if it's >> "just" typing. First of all, the keyboard is just too small. It's like a >> toy keyboard. Second, the screen is too small. It's like a toy screen. >> Netbooks are like toy computers. So are tablets, really. >> >> Now I'm not saying nobody should have a netbook, and I'm CERTAINLY not >> saying people shouldn't put Ubuntu or whatever Linux they want on any >> device they have! I've just heard the whole This Is The Year Of Linux On >> The Desktop thing soooo many times... >> >> >> >> -Yaron >> > > Less interactive is the Key in the measure for tablets, either iPad or > android. > I can see it as a very locked down computer for retail POS systems. > Think "Ok push the cheeseburger button, then ask if they want fries with > that." > If your like me you really do not want to develop in Java(syntax too > verbose) and would rather use QT and python, or QT and C++. > You would like to see a QT implementation of the GNU/Linux tablet interface. > Is ubuntu releasing a tablet ? I seem to have heard something.......... > > ,Ron "First to join the singularity." > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list