Can the digest mode be totally eliminated, since we have folks too discourteous or too ignorant to properly trim those replies? Chuck > -----Original Message----- > From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org > [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org] On Behalf Of ron at ron-l-j.com > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 10:24 PM > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] tclug-list Digest, Vol 95, Issue 9 > Linux laptops > > > Send tclug-list mailing list submissions to > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > tclug-list-owner at mn-linux.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of tclug-list digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Any recommendations for a good laptop? (Dan Gawarecki) > > 2. Re: tclug-list Digest, Vol 95, Issue 8 (ron at ron-l-j.com) > > 3. Re: tclug-list Digest, Vol 95, Issue 8 (Michael Moore) > > 4. Re: tclug-list Digest, Vol 95, Issue 8 (Michael Greenly) > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 13:27:36 -0600 > > From: Dan Gawarecki <dan_gawarecki at datacard.com> > > To: "tclug-list at mn-linux.org" <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Any recommendations for a good laptop? > > Message-ID: > > > > > <4835373F9893BF45BF3AD6612B78939813E92AE715 at EXCMS.corporate.datacard.c > > om> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > I have always enjoyed IBM/Lenovo ThinkPads (started with a "60" in > > last century), although the T410/T420/W520 seem a little > less "stiff" > > in their LCD frame. The W520 has had a problem for us in > that their > > "combo" USB port doesn't seem to handle v2.0 devices. The > "v2.0 only" > > USB port that is provided works fine. > > > > I've been wishing for a W530 myself, mainly because it's > their first > > machine that will handle 32GB and also RAID 0 with 7200 RPM > drives. > > Along with nicer video graphics, this bumps the price to > almost $2500 though. > > > > I've bough Sony Vaios for 2 college age children, the most > recent was > > last summer. Both seemed solid enough for the price > (around $800-900 > > if I remember correctly). > > > > +Dan Gawarecki+ Desk: (952) 988-1801 > > (gav - a - ret - skee) Secura Lab: (952) > > 988-1511 > > Software Test mailto: > > dan_gawarecki at datacard.com<mailto:dan_gawarecki at datacard.com> > > > > "Whatever you do make sure it improves society. Don't just > do it for > > the sake of profit." > > -Dr. Joseph M. 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Re: Any recommendations for a good laptop? (Scott Raun) > >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> - > >> > >> Message: 1 > >> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 08:51:39 -0600 > >> From: Scott Raun <sraun at fireopal.org> > >> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > >> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Any recommendations for a good laptop? > >> Message-ID: <20121109145139.GA4733 at fireopal.org> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >> > >> I'll concur with this - Dell has two very builds. The consumer > >> laptops are fragile, the business laptops are nice and durable. > >> > >> On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 10:11:45PM -0600, Michael Greenly wrote: > >>> My last few machines have been Dell Latitudes. I've been > happy with > >>> them, they're built well. My current machine is an > >>> E6520<http://notebooks.com/2011/07/06/dell-latitude-e6520-review/> > >>> which > >>> fits you're description but they don't seem to be > offering it anymore. > >>> I > >>> didn't look to see what replaced it. In general I have > not had any > >>> problems with Linux on Dell machines as long as I pay > some attention > >>> and choose machines with intel networking and intel or nvidia > >>> graphics. > >>> > >>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Michael Moore > <stuporglue at gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > > so far the > >>> > > only two I only remotely thought held up well were > the Lenovos > >>> > > and > >>> the > >>> > > old Sony VAIOs (not sure about the new ones, they > looks flimsy > >>> > > in comparison). I like the Panasonic Toughbooks but they're > >>> > > painfully expensive and the performance sucks. They have a > >>> > > sealed case which means they have to get creative to > keep the thing from burning up. > >>> > > >>> > There's a part of me that wishes I had a job that would justify > >>> > the price of a Toughbook. I'll look at the Sony VAIOs, but I > >>> > vaguely remember not being impressed with them. > >>> > > >>> > > Nothing wrong with Lenovo. I think based on your specific > >>> > > requirements your 3 month wait will be well worth it. > >>> > > >>> > *sigh* It's going to be a long 3 months... > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > Michael > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > >>> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > >>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Michael Greenly > >>> http://logic-refinery.com > >> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > >>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org > >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Scott Raun > >> sraun at fireopal.org > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org > >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > >> > >> End of tclug-list Digest, Vol 95, Issue 8 > >> ***************************************** > >> > > What about system 76 laptops ? > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 20:02:31 -0600 > > From: Michael Moore <stuporglue at gmail.com> > > To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] tclug-list Digest, Vol 95, Issue 8 > > Message-ID: > > > <CAFE18KWiXo92nnqCx+oAjCZoPPe7Nfx7mnCoOnREoaQCNwSEpQ at mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > >>>> > There's a part of me that wishes I had a job that > would justify > >>>> > the price of a Toughbook. I'll look at the Sony VAIOs, but I > >>>> > vaguely remember not being impressed with them. > >>>> > > >>>> > > Nothing wrong with Lenovo. I think based on your specific > >>>> > > requirements your 3 month wait will be well worth it. > > > >> What about system 76 laptops ? > > > > Good question. I forgot about System76. Does anyone have experience > > with System76? How is their quality? > > > > Their Gazelle Professional has similar tech specs as the > Thinkpad W530 > > and costs a few hundred less. > > > > If I would've remembered them I probably would've at least searched > > around for reviews. > > > > - > > Michael > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 20:58:56 -0600 > > From: Michael Greenly <mgreenly at gmail.com> > > To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] tclug-list Digest, Vol 95, Issue 8 > > Message-ID: > > > <CAChQk+O+Ss1VdfFiwNRcS0+fSuKHSuXZKThj_dVvscOhKXZrSw at mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > I can say there customer service is great. Prior to my current > > machine I purchased one from them. It worked great and was > built well > > but I was really unhappy with the keyboard layout. If you cycle > > through the photos just under the banner > > <https://www.system76.com/laptops/model/gazp8> you can see > a close up > > of the number pad on the keyboard. I found it really > awkward. They > > stood by their, no questions asked 30 day money back > guarantee, without any hassles at all. > > > > On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Michael Moore <stuporglue at gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> >>> > There's a part of me that wishes I had a job that > would justify > >> the > >> >>> > price of a Toughbook. I'll look at the Sony VAIOs, but I > >> >>> > vaguely remember not being impressed with them. > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Nothing wrong with Lenovo. I think based on your specific > >> >>> > > requirements your 3 month wait will be well worth it. > >> > >> > What about system 76 laptops ? > >> > >> Good question. I forgot about System76. Does anyone have > experience > >> with System76? How is their quality? > >> > >> Their Gazelle Professional has similar tech specs as the Thinkpad > >> W530 and costs a few hundred less. > >> > >> If I would've remembered them I probably would've at least > searched > >> around for reviews. > >> > >> - > >> Michael > >> _______________________________________________ > >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org > >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Michael Greenly > > http://logic-refinery.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > > scrubbed... > > URL: > > > <http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20121109 > > /2b52298f/attachment.html> > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > tclug-list at mn- > The system 76 keyboards look similar to the mac style. I > really like short key travel. I have a couple kinesis boards > with good keys but long vertical travel length. emperor Linux > has some really high end laptops. > Has anyone ever used one? If by chance anyone has some > quality information on learning grub 2 and system D I would > appreciate some links. > And on an off topic but on topic note when I pass my Lpic 1 I > am thinking of working with a few people on writing a work > book that will prepare people for the LPIC. The books are not > enough to pass in my opinion. I think that the door for entry > into the Linux world is only cracked open to a few people. > The test is geared for people with a year of Linux admin > experience. Getting that year of admin experience is tough > when your completing your degree and working help desk for a > mostly windows environment. Feedback is appreciated. > ,Ron > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >