I just purchased the 32 bit 7 DVD opensuse distro (1 install + 6 repository discs) from OSDisc.com. Tried it on one PC and after a mess up getting better on a re-install. I like the 6 repository DVDs on the computer to avoid the enormous internet use ( 6 months worth ) on my rural limited internet. Those with good connections probably want different. The problem with any distro is the generic kernel and features installed to work on the most systems. So the initial bloat needs to be trimmed. That is where I messed up with the KDE plasma desktop. But the repository has several compiled kernels and several kernel sources. And I think the suse configuration tool Yast is extremely helpful. There is a lot to learn now when configuring your own kernel. What I like most about opensuse is that they haven't dumbed down the product. For example, there are now several very sophisticated protein molecular dynamics 3D packages in the repository. At least a dozen programming languages from scripting to assembly on microcontrollers. One important difference between Linux and BSD was important in kernel features, thus system calls. Another important problem with the DVD set is most program sources are still online. But for those of us simply using header declaration files or kernel sources, all development files exist for the kernel and most other key packages. As for all the services, there is a way to manage that to your liking in Yast. On the whole, I'm finding opensuse 12.2 includes more and better tools to manage the crazy excess capabilities of KDE. While still giving me the rock solid IceWM. I'm a new fan of Xfce, too. All this with no sound, or internet connection, on a 10 year old p4, with years of fun learning to do. What a gift to computing enthusiasts!! Brian Wood wrote: > I've been using Fedora, but am thinking about trying out another > distro. I'd like to find one that is service oriented. Fedora starts > bluetooth, cups and some other services that I don't think service > providers want. Any ideas? Thanks. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list