I agree that change is not always good. Using opensuse 11.3 with the repositories discs from osdisc.com I'm re-discovering IBM's Visualization Data Explorer (opendx.org) for the N'th time in over a decade. The incredible graphic analysis tool takes a long time to learn. Thankfully, Motif is now open source and OpenDx runs beautifully on IceWM with modern displays. When they switched from StarOffice5.2 to the fragmented OpenOffice it messed up my efforts to learn StarBasic, but they have really put that back together. As for Borland, I'm still taken with FreePascal that has wisely grown around the Borland TurboPascal core. A truly great programming language, among the many others on Linux. Linux has some incredible tools that are not toys. An operating system like this should not compete with a simple stereo CD player, or movie DVD player. I placed a new order to OSDiscs.com, this time for the 7 DVD opensuse 12.2 set. At 60 years old I'll be 70 before I test it out and need an upgrade. Florin Iucha wrote: > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 03:18:23PM -0600, Andrew Dahl wrote: >> It's still "Anaconda", actually. Just a totally new version they >> redesigned from the ground up. :-P > > http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html > > "Before Borland's new spreadsheet for Windows shipped, Philippe > Kahn, the colorful founder of Borland, was quoted a lot in the > press bragging about how Quattro Pro would be much better than > Microsoft Excel, because it was written from scratch. All new > source code! As if source code rusted." > > Cheers, > florin > > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list