On 03/09 12:47 , gregrwm wrote: > twm is tiny, simple, and easy. i like that. but that's only the > beginning. i like that i can place active window icons anywhere on > the desktop, focus unstolen by appearing windows, title bars that > don't span the whole window width, vert zoom, horiz zoom, left zoom, > right zoom, top zoom, bottom zoom.. > > does another window manager have many, or even any, of these features, > or could one be configured to have them? I used FVWM for years for the same reason (and it had a much less hostile UI). I'm currently on KDE, but mostly because of the B-II theme with it's auto-moving and auto-resizing partial-length titlebars. I wish someone would put the titlebars from the KDE B-II theme into FVWM, along with the circular menus from piewm. I'm not enough of a coder to do that tho, or I would have done it years ago. 'welding' windows together (either on the edges side-by-side or overlapping with partial-width titlebars serving as tabs) is something a few WMs have (pekwm I think) but I would love to see more commonly. Tabs should be handled at the WM level, not the app level. -- Carl Soderstrom Systems Administrator Real-Time Enterprises www.real-time.com