-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Be a little careful here: There's a real difference between being able to run on an old hardware standard and being able to support an old software standard. The latter requires coding in backward compatible crap, which becomes a support nightmare. The former merely requires that the current OS is compilable onto the platform and that drivers exist for it. Which, for PPC architecture, is the case. As I mentioned, Gentoo still runs just fine on 68k's, which have been out of production for 20 years. And let's not even get started on things like z80s. Now, that does mean that older hardware aficionados are going to be looking for source based distributions more often than not simply because the current distributions aren't goign to be producing the binaries due to a lack of hardware. But that's a long way from saying that the software won't work on the hardware. On 04/01/2014 08:40 AM, Ryan Coleman wrote: > One thing to keep in mind is PPC has been out of production for a > decade. You want a currently developed platform to work on a > 10-year old (at the newest) architecture. > > Good luck. Just because the OS supports something the software > developer of your packages needs to spend the time and money to > develop for it as well - that's a hard sell. > > I don't support browsers over 5years old in my web development > world because, well, they account for less than 1% of my customer > base. > > -- Ryan Coleman > > > On Mar 31, 2014, at 23:33, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com > <mailto:pj.world at hotmail.com>> wrote: > >> Thanks Brian, >> >> I read through that information and then the comments as well >> found in the following link you sent. >> >> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-linux-7-wheezy-install-flash-player/ >> >> >> I noted comment number 10 and 12. Comment 10 states: 'there may >> possibly be no backports for PowerPC'. Comment 12 states: You can >> use ftp or http. The package is available only for i386 and >> amd64.<----That is some cause for concern. >> >> I just spent the last few hours starting to try to understand >> about 4 pages in the Gentoo installation manual for PowerPC >> referenced in the following link. >> >> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-ppc64.xml?part=1&chap=1 >> >> >> Perhaps it's time for me to consider Debian more seriously for this >> Mac truly it seems a little easier to setup for someone with >> little or no experience such as me with linux. >> >> Obviously the thought of getting 15 or maybe 20 years out of >> something like Gentoo has it's reward's and is worth reading >> more. >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >>> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 21:38:30 -0500 From: kc0iog at gmail.com >>> <mailto:kc0iog at gmail.com> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> <mailto:tclug-list at mn-linux.org> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Will >>> GNU/Linux work with a MAC? >>> >>> \On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 7:13 PM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com >> <mailto:pj.world at hotmail.com>> wrote: >>>> The thing that is upsetting for me is that Gnome 3 is >>>> preinstalled >> on Debian >>>> Wheezy, I do not like Gnome 3. I have used Debian Wheezy a >>>> little >> bit with a >>>> Sony Viao Laptop I own [it's currently installed on that pc] >>>> as of >> now. >>>> Initally after installation I struggled with >>>> Adobe-flashplayer under iceweasel. Still Adobe-flashplayer is >>>> not installed under >> iceweasel. Can't >>>> login to hotmail or gmail with iceweasel. I have been told >>>> that Google Chrome will support flash on Wheezy. I have not >>>> tried it >> personally yet. >>> >>> There are ISOs for Wheezy using the XFCE desktop. I dropped >>> Gnome a few years ago and haven't looked back. >>> >>> 64 bit: >> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-7.4.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso >> >> > 32 bit: >> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-7.4.0-i386-xfce-CD-1.iso >> >> > PPC: >> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-7.4.0-powerpc-xfce-CD-1.iso >> >> > >>> I think you'll find XFCE simple, lightweight, and fast. Much >>> closer to what you're used to with Gnome 2. >>> >>> Flash does work on Wheezy. You need to add the non-free repo, >>> here's a good walkthrough: >>> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-linux-7-wheezy-install-flash-player/ >> >>> > >>> I use flash on my Wheezy box (amd64) without issues. It does >>> seem to work better in Chrome than iceweasel. >>> >>> Brian _______________________________________________ TCLUG >>> Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org <mailto:tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing >> List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> <mailto:tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List > - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTOsv5AAoJELWzpBXk2k3wyOEH/jQRMk4m4NS2sNWFdEGVUY/l n5x5FqhQ5e6ftyJ6/LHzBDVoFKUgcQu3Zz40EEDcBTm96DVT91O0RsWpYQmpphFC UZs6gsPjAZtgarqsb8o7/vfMNb67dQgk5fxHgp/cnBLrZw0dYx6LYfKEw3JLwXze 0uR6hYiXiF7SLVBIRu4vcDiGZOpE42DRhHIOhTDzwOGllsA8GfR2vp43/R7hfAcA uIqQfCo7DVa7sMdQsXgufea49uuggG6iIs8DeMU4V9Bl2SfWDI59MfAM8PTmNqzT AZZZsPQwYoShmrayj47PNzuCaVShOF0Sj2s0CxxJxHe8FIJsrlyQo+sxyUy1rpc= =iUQX -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----