I do not know the density of the hard drives. I believe that most are high
density- they come from computers that also have cdrom drives- relatively
newer by comparison to when 3.5 in drives came out. They come from desktop
and laptop computers. I assume that all the drives work, but will not test
them.

If a trade is not possible, i can also sell them for $5 each (including
shipping). If any are found not working or not high density, I will refund
the prorated price.

I recycle and refurbish computers... if I can sell good parts for reuse,
I'll give a fair deal.

Thanks,
Jason
On Apr 20, 2014 12:47 PM, "Doug Reed" <n0nas at amsat.org> wrote:

> Hi Mr B-o-B!
>
> You didn't say what kind of drives you are looking for; 3.5" high
> density, 3.5" standard density, 5.25" high density, 5.25" standard
> density 80 track or 40 track, double sided or single sided, or 8" high
> density, low density, hard sector, soft sector, or Vydeck.
>
> I will say that if this is for a disk duplication project where you
> will be using 3.5" or 5.25" HD drives, you have the best chance of
> success. If you are doing anything that requires making both 5.25" HD
> disks and 5.25" 360K low density disks, you should plan to have two
> sets of 5.25" drives because the track read-write width was different
> between 360K low density 40 track and 1.2MB high density 80 track.
>
> Chances are good you will not be using 8" drives, but if you do, there
> used to be software that would let you read 8" drives on your PC if
> you made your own control cable. It has been too many years to
> remember now but I know there was something about the old PC floppy
> disk controllers that made me buy a special controller card to get
> full capability for reading odd disk formats. Linux might even be the
> ideal OS for this kind of work since you can probably do anything you
> want with the right drivers.
>
> The final recommendation would be that you consider your options for
> proving the drives are good. I know that I've had good drives and bad
> drives over the years. Good drives usually had a bit better read-write
> head and electronics that gave a bit more margin on read. Bad drives
> had less margin and tended to give more read errors with marginal
> floppy disks, particularly when you get into high density media.
>
> And if you have 8 random drives from different vendors and manufacture
> dates, you probably have 8 drives with different physical alignment of
> the heads and no two the same. This tends to show up as difficulty
> reading a test disk, particularly on the inner tracks where data bits
> are packed the tightest on the media. I used to test my PC drives by
> formatting disks on each of them, then doing a surface scan of the
> disks as I swapped them between the other drives. Then I'd try to make
> sense of which drives had read errors on which floppies. The "keeper"
> drives were the ones that had no errors reading each other's disks
> since I could reasonably assume they had similar alignment and good
> read margin.
>
> 30 years ago in the TRS-80 days, I had 3.5", 5.25", and 8" floppy
> drive alignment disks where I worked and I frequently aligned the
> floppy drives when they were returned to the shop. I haven't seen
> anyone selling alignment disks for along time now, and since 3.5" and
> 5.25" drives are common as sand, I don't know that I'd bother with it
> today. Easier just to get a couple more drives and test them as above.
>
> And if you are duplicating floppies, be sure to pay attention to
> getting quality media. The cheaper disks are usually cheaper for a
> reason. Anyone who fought with 5.25" HD media knows that very well.
> The worst media I ever saw was at a three letter government agency and
> came from the lowest bidder. When you held it to the light and looked
> at the shiny surface, it looked like it had freckles. Each freckle was
> a high spot on the media that had been scraped off when the head went
> by and coated the read head like frost on your windshield on a cold
> winter morning. The build-up on the head reduced read margin until the
> drive couldn't read anything!
>
> If you can't collect enough old drives from the TClug list, you might
> want to put a Want on Craig's List or simply pick up some of the
> Free-haul-it-away computers on the list. Worst case I can give you the
> email address for a guy who scraps old computers as his business, but
> he might be the worst place to look since most of his scrap comes from
> companies that got rid of 5.25" drives 15-20 years ago.
>
> <www.twinslan.net>
> If none of the above pans out, your last option might be the local
> hamfest (electronic swap meet, flea market) on June 7 in St Paul near
> 3M Center. You'd have a pretty good chance of collecting a dozen
> drives out there, although 5" drives are getting pretty old even for
> hams...... I gave half a dozen old computers and drives to the
> scrapper last fall. I might have a few more drives if I look and knew
> what you wanted.  :-)
>
> Doug Reed.
>
>
> On 4/20/14, tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org
> <tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org> wrote:
> > Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 00:58:53 -0500
> > From: B-o-B De Mars <mr.chew.baka at gmail.com>
> > To: TCLUG <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> > Subject: [tclug-list] Need 8 floppy drives
> >
> > I am in need of as many old floppy drives that I can get my hands on.
> > The magic # I am looking for is 8, but would be interested in more.
> > I will give cash, or trade.
> > If anyone still has a pile of these drives collecting dust let me know.
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Mr. B-o-B
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