In response to the difficulty of burning disks on linux, I found a version of
Nerolinux and got a license for using it from Nero. The download was still
available and it works fine so far burning dual layer dvd disks. I have only
recently obtained a bluray burner and do not know if it will burn those yet,
but I will try soon. 
I used the Nero version of burning software because I was familiar with it. 
I agree it is one of the main complaints I have with using linux OS that I can
do these things easier on windows os. This is not a good thing to show new
users. Most just want to do the usual things on linux they did on windows but
not have to deal with all the stuff that tended to mess up their normal use
such as the malware etc.
I dont think most of the linux users would mind paying a small fee to use the
OS if it would help get things like burning bluray disks resolved. No one
wants to do all that work for nothing. Say a $10 fee to use a distro and get
all the updates and free software compared to the cheapest version of windows
7 which is useful at all costing about $100 and virtually no free software to
use on the OS.
Until something like this happens and users can find an easy painless way to
migrate to linux it will continue to be hard to convince someone it is in
their best interest to do so.
Ken

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> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:19:34 -0500
> From: o1bigtenor <o1bigtenor at gmail.com>
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> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Marc Thomas <jazzyflute at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > If you guys decide to throw up a web conference for meetings like this,
> > I'd definitely tune in.
> >
> >
> > At this time, we aren't live streaming or recording our talks. If there
is
> > an interest in doing this though, it's something that we can invest in
> > (hardware) for future talks!
> >
> > I just joined TCLUG but I would really appreciate access to a webinar on
> > Vim.
> >
> >
> > A good friend of mine out in Michigan did a few screen casts that go into
> > some of VIM's features. You can find his stuff on at [
> > http://lococast.net/archives/category/screencast]. They are a few years
> > old but all still very relavent.
> >
> 
> Just starting to use Vim somewhat more than just for editing computer
> operating files so I can use all the help I can get.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Darald
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> Can anyone recommend a hard drive recovery service in MSP?  I had a  
> RAID 1 mirror with both drives go bad nearly simultaneously with power  
> outages.  This is for personal use so don't have an account to expense  
> it to.  :)
> 
> I have been able to recover some of the data myself but I think I need  
> the help of professionals...
> 
> Josh
> 
> 
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> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 16:55:34 -0500
> From: Seth Miller <sethmiller.sm at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Hard drive recovery in Minneapolis area
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> Josh,
> 
> If you don't mind exposing the data to some of us geeks, we could at least
> give it shot and it wouldn't cost you anything. You would just have to use
> some "dd" foo to create an image and find a place to put it to give us
> access.
> 
> Seth Miller
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 4:30 PM, <josh at trutwins.homeip.net> wrote:
> 
> > Can anyone recommend a hard drive recovery service in MSP?  I had a RAID
1
> > mirror with both drives go bad nearly simultaneously with power outages.
> > This is for personal use so don't have an account to expense it to.  :)
> >
> > I have been able to recover some of the data myself but I think I need
the
> > help of professionals...
> >
> > Josh
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 18:23:08 -0500
> From: B-o-B De Mars <mr.chew.baka at gmail.com>
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> On 8/28/2014 4:30 PM, josh at trutwins.homeip.net wrote:
> > Can anyone recommend a hard drive recovery service in MSP?  I had a RAID
> > 1 mirror with both drives go bad nearly simultaneously with power
> > outages.  This is for personal use so don't have an account to expense
> > it to.  :)
> >
> > I have been able to recover some of the data myself but I think I need
> > the help of professionals...
> >
> 
> The best I have ever used is http://www.krollontrack.com/
> 
> They are expensive, but worth it.
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 18:36:05 -0500
> From: Jeremy MountainJohnson <jeremy.mountainjohnson at gmail.com>
> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Hard drive recovery in Minneapolis area
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> KO is extremely expensive. Many small shops ship to them or elsewhere
> with a high price tag.
> 
> +1 on software recovery first. Unless there is physical damage to the
> platters, that's the way to go. ddrescue or aff/e01 image (ftkimager,
> libewf) can make a number of attempts to grab each sector. testdisk is
> free for non-commercial use and does file carving and partition
> rebuilding.
> --
> Jeremy MountainJohnson
> Jeremy.MountainJohnson at gmail.com
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 6:23 PM, B-o-B De Mars <mr.chew.baka at gmail.com>
wrote:
> > On 8/28/2014 4:30 PM, josh at trutwins.homeip.net wrote:
> >>
> >> Can anyone recommend a hard drive recovery service in MSP?  I had a RAID
> >> 1 mirror with both drives go bad nearly simultaneously with power
> >> outages.  This is for personal use so don't have an account to expense
> >> it to.  :)
> >>
> >> I have been able to recover some of the data myself but I think I need
> >> the help of professionals...
> >>
> >
> > The best I have ever used is http://www.krollontrack.com/
> >
> > They are expensive, but worth it.
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 18:40:56 -0500
> From: Brian Wall <kc0iog at gmail.com>
> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] bluray disc burning
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> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 6:48 AM, o1bigtenor <o1bigtenor at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I would be quite curious to find out what search term you used to find
this
> > url - - please?
> 
> Search for 'burn bluray debian'.  Fourth link down, 'minimize coasters'.
> 
> > Also sort of pathetic that the 'official packages' don't work and one
needs
> > to build from source,
> > which is exactly what Debian preaches NOT to do - - - hmmmmmmmmmm - - -
> > maybe
> > its also related to the documentation issues plaguing most software.
> 
> It's not just a Debian thing.  It's a licensing issue with certain
> parts of the code.  Debian will only include code that conforms to
> certain licenses in their 'main' branch.  'contrib' and 'nonfree' are
> where all the not-so-free goodies live.  It is possible there is a
> contrib version of the real cdrtools package, I haven't dug in to find
> out.  This issue has existed for some time in many distros.  Back when
> I started using linux, Redhat shipped with the 'pico' text editor.
> 'pico' has seemingly fallen off the planet since, because the major
> distros had issues with the licensing from WU.  Hence the GPL friendly
> 'nano' was born and is included in just about every distro.
> 
> > I'll give this a whirl hopefully tonight.
> 
> Good luck.  Hopefully in the future BR burning will become a little more
simple.
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 07:25:58 -0400
> From: Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom <chrome at real-time.com>
> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Hard drive recovery in Minneapolis area
> Message-ID: <20140829112558.GB33360 at real-time.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> On 08/28 04:30 , josh at trutwins.homeip.net wrote:
> > Can anyone recommend a hard drive recovery service in MSP?  I had a
> > RAID 1 mirror with both drives go bad nearly simultaneously with
> > power outages.  This is for personal use so don't have an account to
> > expense it to.  :)
> 
> Never used them, but I'm under the impression they have a good reputation:
> http://www.krollontrack.com/company/contact-us/
> 
> -- 
> Carl Soderstrom
> Systems Administrator
> Real-Time Enterprises
> www.real-time.com
> 
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