From woodbrian77 at gmail.com Fri Dec 4 11:03:45 2015 From: woodbrian77 at gmail.com (Brian Wood) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 11:03:45 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] C++/FreeBSD meeting (was Free stuff) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Brian Wood wrote: > AL F writes: > > I'm interested in both C++ and FreeBSD. > > B-o-B De Mars writes: > > I would be interested in a C++ &/or FreeBSD meeting. > > Glad to hear that. A meeting that has a mixture > of both sounds good to me. Why don't you send > me email off line telling me what days of the week > would be good for you as far as meeting. I'm thinking > about meeting on a quarterly basis to start with. > I've thought that the monthly C++ meetings in some > other cities have had a hard time coming up with > interesting topics when they meet that often. I will > try to have a few things about C++ to talk about for > the first meeting, but beyond that am not really sure. > Feel free to prepare some C++ or FreeBSD items to > talk about. > > > Are you still interested? I haven't heard from you. Brian Ebenezer Enterprises - "Yet for your sake we face death all day long; we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered." Psalms 44:22 http://webEbenezer.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ryan.coleman at cwis.biz Fri Dec 4 11:06:34 2015 From: ryan.coleman at cwis.biz (Ryan Coleman) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 11:06:34 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] C++/FreeBSD meeting (was Free stuff) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <855A5613-6159-4DE4-A45A-9E8AC077FC5D@cwis.biz> Brian, I might suggest email them off-list and making arrangements, then coming back on-list and announcing the plan. ? Ryan > On Dec 4, 2015, at 11:03 AM, Brian Wood wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Brian Wood > wrote: > AL F writes: > > I'm interested in both C++ and FreeBSD. > > B-o-B De Mars writes: > > I would be interested in a C++ &/or FreeBSD meeting. > > Glad to hear that. A meeting that has a mixture > of both sounds good to me. Why don't you send > me email off line telling me what days of the week > would be good for you as far as meeting. I'm thinking > about meeting on a quarterly basis to start with. > I've thought that the monthly C++ meetings in some > other cities have had a hard time coming up with > interesting topics when they meet that often. I will > try to have a few things about C++ to talk about for > the first meeting, but beyond that am not really sure. > Feel free to prepare some C++ or FreeBSD items to > talk about. > > > > Are you still interested? I haven't heard from you. > > > Brian > Ebenezer Enterprises - "Yet for your sake we face death all day long; > we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered." Psalms 44:22 > > http://webEbenezer.net > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ryan.coleman at cwis.biz Fri Dec 4 19:25:21 2015 From: ryan.coleman at cwis.biz (Ryan Coleman) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 19:25:21 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] Auto mounting memory cards on insert... Message-ID: <3A486384-52D0-4171-99EC-FAF44E1595C7@cwis.biz> I know I can write udev rule to do this but I don?t know how to make it happen? it would be on any card insertion (SD, CF, etc.) and might be on any media type (for now it?s a Lexar USB3 reader). Running Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS Server (no GUI). Drivers are either FAT32 or ExFAT, never NTFS or anything else. Then, when it mounts, I presume I can run a script if I can do this via a udev rule. Any ideas? Here?s the udevadm report for one of the cards, this is a 64GB SD card: looking at device '/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:15.0/0000:03:00.0/usb2/2-1/2-1:1.0/host33/target33:0:0/33:0:0:1/block/sdd': KERNEL=="sdd" SUBSYSTEM=="block" DRIVER=="" ATTR{ro}=="0" ATTR{size}=="123533312" ATTR{stat}==" 528 0 4224 568 0 0 0 0 0 568 568" ATTR{range}=="16" ATTR{discard_alignment}=="0" ATTR{events}=="media_change" ATTR{ext_range}=="256" ATTR{events_poll_msecs}=="2000" ATTR{alignment_offset}=="0" ATTR{inflight}==" 0 0" ATTR{removable}=="1" ATTR{capability}=="51" ATTR{events_async}==?" looking at parent device '/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:15.0/0000:03:00.0/usb2/2-1/2-1:1.0/host33/target33:0:0/33:0:0:1': KERNELS=="33:0:0:1" SUBSYSTEMS=="scsi" DRIVERS=="sd" ATTRS{rev}=="LX01" ATTRS{type}=="0" ATTRS{scsi_level}=="6" ATTRS{model}=="SD USB_3_0 Read" ATTRS{state}=="running" ATTRS{queue_type}=="none" ATTRS{iodone_cnt}=="0x3c3" ATTRS{iorequest_cnt}=="0x3c3" ATTRS{device_busy}=="0" ATTRS{evt_capacity_change_reported}=="0" ATTRS{timeout}=="30" ATTRS{evt_media_change}=="0" ATTRS{max_sectors}=="240" ATTRS{ioerr_cnt}=="0x105" ATTRS{queue_depth}=="1" ATTRS{vendor}=="Lexar " ATTRS{evt_soft_threshold_reached}=="0" ATTRS{device_blocked}=="0" ATTRS{evt_mode_parameter_change_reported}=="0" ATTRS{evt_lun_change_reported}=="0" ATTRS{evt_inquiry_change_reported}=="0" ATTRS{iocounterbits}=="32" ATTRS{eh_timeout}=="10" From admin at lctn.org Mon Dec 7 10:35:12 2015 From: admin at lctn.org (Raymond Norton) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 10:35:12 -0600 (CST) Subject: [tclug-list] Open source soultion for backing up VMs In-Reply-To: <23682312.2491449505965482.JavaMail.root@mail.lctn.org> Message-ID: <680094.2511449506112638.JavaMail.root@mail.lctn.org> I'm getting pricing for Veeam to back up our VMWare hosts, but would like to avoid the licensing costs. Currently, I use Bacula for all user dat backups, but not sure if that is a good choice for backing up entire VMDK files of 40+ VMs Any recommendations? -- Raymond Norton LCTN 952.955.7766 -- Sent From My Desktop -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nassarmu at gmail.com Mon Dec 7 10:57:20 2015 From: nassarmu at gmail.com (Munir Nassar) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 10:57:20 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] Open source soultion for backing up VMs In-Reply-To: <680094.2511449506112638.JavaMail.root@mail.lctn.org> References: <23682312.2491449505965482.JavaMail.root@mail.lctn.org> <680094.2511449506112638.JavaMail.root@mail.lctn.org> Message-ID: i've been using GhettoVCB to backup VMDKs, it works... usually. It has some serious drawbacks: the package isn't signed so you cannot easily install it or keep ESX updated with it installed. Installing it by hand is easy enough, but you have to enable SSH or the console to do so and finally there is no management console for it so you have to have your PFY keep up with the emails it spits out to ensure that everything is working. on the other hand its free and it works... usually :) On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Raymond Norton wrote: > I'm getting pricing for Veeam to back up our VMWare hosts, but would like to > avoid the licensing costs. Currently, I use Bacula for all user dat backups, > but not sure if that is a good choice for backing up entire VMDK files of > 40+ VMs > > Any recommendations? > > -- > Raymond Norton > LCTN > 952.955.7766 > > -- > Sent From My Desktop > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > From tclug1 at whitleymott.net Mon Dec 7 12:13:59 2015 From: tclug1 at whitleymott.net (gregrwm) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 12:13:59 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] Open source soultion for backing up VMs Message-ID: backuppc. far more efficient if it can see&work inside the vm filesystems, but will work either way. has callout for creating snapshots. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ryan.c.dunlop at gmail.com Mon Dec 7 13:07:39 2015 From: ryan.c.dunlop at gmail.com (Ryan Dunlop) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 13:07:39 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] Open source soultion for backing up VMs In-Reply-To: References: <23682312.2491449505965482.JavaMail.root@mail.lctn.org> <680094.2511449506112638.JavaMail.root@mail.lctn.org> Message-ID: I second GhettoVCB. Been using it for many years without issue. Takes a snapshot, does the backup, removes snapshot when done. Simple but effective. It does choke (very randomly and rarely for me) but when it does it's been smart enough to remove the snapshot so I don't have a system working for too long on the snapped image, not smart enough to try the other VMs when one does fail to backup, the entire process just stops. On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Munir Nassar wrote: > i've been using GhettoVCB to backup VMDKs, it works... usually. It has > some serious drawbacks: the package isn't signed so you cannot easily > install it or keep ESX updated with it installed. Installing it by > hand is easy enough, but you have to enable SSH or the console to do > so and finally there is no management console for it so you have to > have your PFY keep up with the emails it spits out to ensure that > everything is working. on the other hand its free and it works... > usually :) > > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Raymond Norton wrote: > > I'm getting pricing for Veeam to back up our VMWare hosts, but would > like to > > avoid the licensing costs. Currently, I use Bacula for all user dat > backups, > > but not sure if that is a good choice for backing up entire VMDK files of > > 40+ VMs > > > > Any recommendations? > > > > -- > > Raymond Norton > > LCTN > > 952.955.7766 > > > > -- > > Sent From My Desktop > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Following some conversations of others doing the same, I am reading that a failed drive can take a very long time (many days) to rebuild a raid 6. We use quite a few Synology units with far less capacity, and like them. Is there a recommended raid configuration that would have more acceptable rebuild times? Couldn't imagine having to watch a raid rebuild go on for days. From: "gregrwm" To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 12:13:59 PM Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Open source soultion for backing up VMs backuppc. far more efficient if it can see&work inside the vm filesystems, but will work either way. has callout for creating snapshots. _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lkateley at kateley.com Mon Dec 7 15:04:41 2015 From: lkateley at kateley.com (Linda Kateley) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 15:04:41 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] Open source soultion for backing up VMs In-Reply-To: <1078633806.138.1449519982694.JavaMail.zimbra@lctn.org> References: <1078633806.138.1449519982694.JavaMail.zimbra@lctn.org> Message-ID: <5665F469.5000604@kateley.com> I build 100Tb+ openzfs like everyday, well recently i am building tiny ones(20Tb or so). In zfs you can build smaller raidsets that you can combine together to create a pool. So when you go to rebuild, it doesn't take as long, especially on bigger systems. Also it doesn't resync, it resilvers only coping the areas of disks that has been written to. if you would like more info, contact me offlist at linda at kateleyco.com. On 12/7/15 2:26 PM, admin at lctn.org wrote: > Thanks for the replies... On a related question: I am researching an > affordable solution for a 72TB NAS to store the snapshots. Following > some conversations of others doing the same, I am reading that a > failed drive can take a very long time (many days) to rebuild a raid > 6. We use quite a few Synology units with far less capacity, and like > them. Is there a recommended raid configuration that would have more > acceptable rebuild times? Couldn't imagine having to watch a raid > rebuild go on for days. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From: *"gregrwm" > *To: *tclug-list at mn-linux.org > *Sent: *Monday, December 7, 2015 12:13:59 PM > *Subject: *Re: [tclug-list] Open source soultion for backing up VMs > > backuppc. far more efficient if it can see&work inside the vm > filesystems, but will work either way. has callout for creating > snapshots. > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Roles will include project resource management, setup and maintenance of intranet and extranet hardware and software utilizing XenServer, AWS and SAN technologies, development and maintenance of automation scripts and build scripts, product deployment to client sites, and some client technical support. Must be a self-starter able to independently drive a project to completion. Required skills: Linux, Windows Server and networking Desired skills: Java, scripting, Linux, Apache, MySQL, Tomcat, JBoss, automated backup systems, firewalls, networking, messaging systems (JMS) Responsibilities: Data Center build and updates New release installations Network configurations (routers, switches, QOS, etc..) Network and system monitoring System setup and install (PCs, thin clients, scanners, Token and Biometric Security, wireless) Basic level support to customers Software Development Support Software Build systems and script development Internal system setup and support Test system support This position requires a broad base of system and software knowledge with some expertise in Unix (CentOS) , Windows OS, Windows Desktop Remote (Terminal Services) and some OSX) Please send a Word resume and lets chat. Thanks! John Sturgeleski Business & IT Recruiter TRECK Solutions 612.310.4846 cell jsturgeleski at trecksolutions.com connect with me: www.LinkedIN.com/in/johnsturgeleski -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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John Sturgeleski IT Recruiter 612-310-4846 cell jsturgeleski at trecksolutions.com Red Hat/CentOS Linux Systems Administrator Job description _________ ? a dynamic high-tech company is looking for a highly skilled Systems Administrator to joining the Company?s Technology Operations Team, which includes Site Reliability Engineering (SRE), Database Administration (DBA), Network Engineering (NE), and Network Operations Center (NOC). The Technology Operations Team is responsible for full scope system/network availability and pro-active issue resolution for the Company?s platform sites around the world. This position will be integral to the remote monitoring & management of global client infrastructure while providing timely response within designated SLA times to service effecting faults and performance issues. You will work closely with the Company?s Network Operations Center to diagnose & characterize issues and with the Company?s Software Development Teams to provide architecture review and to develop infrastructure best practices. The Systems Admin will be driven to build highly scalable, fault-tolerant, and easy to administer infrastructure. You must be pro-active and organized, diligent about documentation, and passionate about monitoring and automating everything. Responsibilities: ? Manage the availability, scalability and performance of the platforms. ? Create the tools and infrastructure leveraged by the rest of the engineering teams ? Diagnose and repair network, application, and hardware bottlenecks ? Test and tune network, hardware, and software configurations to maximize performance ? Deploy and manage monitoring and diagnostic tools ? Guide our product and platform teams to keep new features fast and stable ? Monitoring systems, databases and networks for proper operation and performance. ? Providing a 7?24 on call support for the operations infrastructure. ? Establishing recommended configurations for the applications operating environment, including computer hardware, storage, software and configuration necessary to properly host our applications. ? Automate build and deployment processes in a hybrid (AWS + proprietary) hosting environment. ? Create and maintain continuous integration (CI) and continuous deployment (CD) environments to facilitate an agile development process. ? Research, recommend and implement new technologies. ? Work is generally expected to take place during normal working hours however the Technical Operations Team provides Tier2 and Tier3 7x24x365 on call escalation and candidates should be flexible with schedules to meet the needs and demands of the business. Qualifications: ? Strong knowledge of core Enterprise LINUX (Red Hat/CentOS) with a focus upon building, maintaining, securing and performance tuning systems. ? Proven experience capacity planning, performance tuning, and infrastructure architecture. Experience scaling web, application, and data systems horizontally and vertically. ? Experience with VMWARE and other virtual infrastructure platforms. ? Experience with J2EE platforms, specifically JBoss. Knowledge of JBoss installation, JVM tuning and troubleshooting. ? Experience with load balancer concepts including HA, VIPs, and SNAT. ? High-level shell fluency + one or more scripting languages ( Python, Go, Perl, or similar ). ? Experience managing and deploying full stack, distributed services. ? Experience with system automation tools (Ansible, Chef, Puppet, Salt Stack, etc.). ? Experience with monitoring, alerting, and pipeline analysis tools (Nagios, Sensu, Graphite, Riemann, Logstash, etc.). ? Experience with queuing/data-pipelining solutions (Storm, Kafka, RabbitMQ, ZeroMQ, etc.). ? Experience with SQL/NoSQL systems such as PostgresSQL, MySQL, Cassandra, CouchDB, or Redis. ? Big Data experience ? knowledge of SOLR, Hadoop and Cassandra concepts, installation, tuning and monitoring, is a nice to have. ? Must be able to communicate effectively and efficiently. ? Hunger to solve the problem. No stone left unturned while searching for the solution! ? Smarts, humility, and equal willingness to learn and teach ? A sense of ownership, initiative, and drive ? Strong analytical and problem solving skills ? Experience in the development of operational procedures, processes, and scripts Education and Experience: ? Bachelor?s Degree in Information Technology, Computer Science, related field, or equivalent experience. ? Substantial experience in operating 7 x 24 high-availability IT infrastructure in a highly transactional environment ? 3+ years of relevant work experience, including experience with high-volume, production distributed systems environment. ? 1-3 years in a Tier II or higher role John Sturgeleski Business & IT Recruiter TRECK Solutions 612.310.4846 cell jsturgeleski at trecksolutions.com www.trecksolutions.com connect with me: www.LinkedIN.com/in/johnsturgeleski cid:image001.png at 01D09DFC.564B28B0 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Open source backup solutions are fairly feature limited overall. Even the open source projects will make you pay for the good stuff they offer. If you are using VMWare, then hands down you will not find a finer backup solution than Veeam. Backup locally, offsite, to a cloud storage situation, replication to other vm hosts, dedup, compression, and easy to use. They also offer a free program called EndPoint protection. Works great by itself, or you can use it with your Veeam backup repo's. A linux version is expected to be released any day now too. From jkey at tomobiki.dyndns.org Fri Dec 11 11:17:28 2015 From: jkey at tomobiki.dyndns.org (Joseph Key) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 11:17:28 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] Stuff for free Message-ID: <566B0528.2020007@tomobiki.dyndns.org> I'm cleaning up my computer room and have some items to give away. Sun Sparcstation 20 SiliconGraphics O2 with a monitor (no p/s for the monitor) Hp RIsc computer a couple of rack mount 10/100 switches a couple of ups units (need new batteries) Joseph Key jkey at tomobiki.dyndns.org --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From clark.andreasen at gmail.com Fri Dec 11 12:16:04 2015 From: clark.andreasen at gmail.com (Clark Andreasen) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 18:16:04 +0000 Subject: [tclug-list] Stuff for free In-Reply-To: <566B0528.2020007@tomobiki.dyndns.org> References: <566B0528.2020007@tomobiki.dyndns.org> Message-ID: I'd be interested in the switches and UPSs On Fri, Dec 11, 2015, 11:20 Joseph Key wrote: > I'm cleaning up my computer room and have some items to give away. > > Sun Sparcstation 20 > SiliconGraphics O2 with a monitor (no p/s for the monitor) > Hp RIsc computer > a couple of rack mount 10/100 switches > a couple of ups units (need new batteries) > > Joseph Key > jkey at tomobiki.dyndns.org > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 12/11/2015 12:16 PM, Clark Andreasen wrote: > > I'd be interested in the switches and UPSs > > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2015, 11:20 Joseph Key > wrote: > > I'm cleaning up my computer room and have some items to give away. > > Sun Sparcstation 20 > SiliconGraphics O2 with a monitor (no p/s for the monitor) > Hp RIsc computer > a couple of rack mount 10/100 switches > a couple of ups units (need new batteries) > > Joseph Key > jkey at tomobiki.dyndns.org > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clark.andreasen at gmail.com Fri Dec 11 14:35:07 2015 From: clark.andreasen at gmail.com (Clark Andreasen) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 20:35:07 +0000 Subject: [tclug-list] Stuff for free In-Reply-To: <566B2FE2.3070809@tomobiki.dyndns.org> References: <566B0528.2020007@tomobiki.dyndns.org> <566B2FE2.3070809@tomobiki.dyndns.org> Message-ID: That's fine by me, I'm in northeast though so maybe somewhere in between at around 3:30? Whatever works for you is fine On Fri, Dec 11, 2015, 14:20 Joseph Key wrote: > The ups units are older and might have the covers off. Where can we meet? > I'm south of the river in Burnsville. > > > On 12/11/2015 12:16 PM, Clark Andreasen wrote: > > I'd be interested in the switches and UPSs > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2015, 11:20 Joseph Key wrote: > >> I'm cleaning up my computer room and have some items to give away. >> >> Sun Sparcstation 20 >> SiliconGraphics O2 with a monitor (no p/s for the monitor) >> Hp RIsc computer >> a couple of rack mount 10/100 switches >> a couple of ups units (need new batteries) >> >> Joseph Key >> jkey at tomobiki.dyndns.org >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesotatclug-list at mn-linux.orghttp://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > This > email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. > www.avast.com > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tclug1 at whitleymott.net Sun Dec 13 14:45:36 2015 From: tclug1 at whitleymott.net (gregrwm) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 14:45:36 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] a before null Message-ID: why would "a" come before null or period in a version sort? $ sort -V< 9.9 > 9a.9 > eoi 9a.9 9.9 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sraun at fireopal.org Mon Dec 14 20:37:12 2015 From: sraun at fireopal.org (Scott Raun) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 20:37:12 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] Monitor to get rid of Message-ID: <20151215023712.GB23406@fireopal.org> I've got an old NEC Multisync XE21 to get rid of. Anyone have any suggestions other than my county electronics recycling? -- Scott Raun sraun at fireopal.org From mbmiller+l at gmail.com Tue Dec 15 02:33:11 2015 From: mbmiller+l at gmail.com (Mike Miller) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 02:33:11 -0600 (CST) Subject: [tclug-list] a before null In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, 13 Dec 2015, gregrwm wrote: > why would "a" come before null or period in a version sort? > > $ sort -V<> 9.9 >> 9a.9 >> eoi > 9a.9 > 9.9 I figured it out in the end -- see the links. I don't know. It seems very wrong to me. More examples: $ echo -e '9\n9a' | sort -V 9 9a $ echo -e '9.\n9a.' | sort -V 9. 9a. $ echo -e '9.0\n9a.0' | sort -V 9a.0 9.0 $ echo -e '9a.a\n9.a' | sort -V 9.a 9a.a $ echo -e '9a.a\n9.z' | sort -V 9.z 9a.a It matters whether the period is followed by a letter or a digit. More: $ touch 9.0 9a.0 $ ls 9.0 9a.0 9.0 9a.0 $ ls -v 9.0 9a.0 9a.0 9.0 Apparently, the "versions" being sorted, even by GNU sort, are meant to be filenames, and the extension of the filename has to match a specific pattern. Read here: https://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/Details-about-version-sort.html#Details-about-version-sort So this works: $ echo -e '9a.gz\n9.gz' | sort -V 9.gz 9a.gz But the .0 extension doesn't match the pattern, so the -V option has unpredictable output. I figured this out by reading here... https://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/sort-invocation.html ...and following the link to "Details about version sort." Mike From tclug1 at whitleymott.net Tue Dec 15 09:06:07 2015 From: tclug1 at whitleymott.net (gregrwm) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:06:07 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] Monitor to get rid of Message-ID: if it works, either Free Geek (they install linux) or PCs for People (they install windoze) will be happy to have it. On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 8:37 PM, Scott Raun wrote: > I've got an old NEC Multisync XE21 to get rid of. > > Anyone have any suggestions other than my county electronics > recycling? > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nassarmu at gmail.com Tue Dec 15 14:13:38 2015 From: nassarmu at gmail.com (Munir Nassar) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:13:38 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] Monitor to get rid of In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: actually, no :( CRT monitors are not something that FreeGeek can process, resell or reuse. they just end up costing money to be rid of. You are better off taking it to you local BestBuy or Staples for recycling (which they do for free up to a point). On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 9:06 AM, gregrwm wrote: > if it works, either Free Geek (they install linux) or PCs for People (they > install windoze) will be happy to have it. > > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 8:37 PM, Scott Raun wrote: >> >> I've got an old NEC Multisync XE21 to get rid of. >> >> Anyone have any suggestions other than my county electronics >> recycling? > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > From tclug1 at whitleymott.net Tue Dec 15 14:24:56 2015 From: tclug1 at whitleymott.net (gregrwm) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:24:56 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] Monitor to get rid of Message-ID: too bad. well PCs for people still says they will: pcsforpeople.com/individual-donations says: All electronic recycling is accepted FREE of charge... fee applies for recycling nonfunctional CRT monitors... On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Munir Nassar wrote: > actually, no :( > > CRT monitors are not something that FreeGeek can process, resell or > reuse. they just end up costing money to be rid of. You are better off > taking it to you local BestBuy or Staples for recycling (which they do > for free up to a point). > > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 9:06 AM, gregrwm wrote: > > if it works, either Free Geek (they install linux) or PCs for People > (they > > install windoze) will be happy to have it. > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 8:37 PM, Scott Raun wrote: > >> I've got an old NEC Multisync XE21 to get rid of. > >> > >> Anyone have any suggestions other than my county electronics > >> recycling? > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tompoe at meltel.net Tue Dec 15 14:56:32 2015 From: tompoe at meltel.net (Tom) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:56:32 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] Monitor to get rid of In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56707E80.3080002@meltel.net> Hi, Greg: I'm both a recipient of pcsforpeople's good works, and a strong advocate for what they do. I encourage you to visit them, see what they do. When folks from low income population can come across a working monitor, that gift is well-received. See if they can keep your name and address, in case they have such a family come in for assistance. Just a thought. Tom On 12/15/2015 02:24 PM, gregrwm wrote: > too bad. well PCs for people still says they will: > pcsforpeople.com/individual-donations > says: > All electronic recycling is accepted FREE of charge... > fee applies for recycling nonfunctional CRT monitors... > > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Munir Nassar > wrote: > > actually, no :( > > CRT monitors are not something that FreeGeek can process, resell or > reuse. they just end up costing money to be rid of. You are better off > taking it to you local BestBuy or Staples for recycling (which they do > for free up to a point). > > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 9:06 AM, gregrwm > wrote: > > if it works, either Free Geek (they install linux) or PCs for > People (they > > install windoze) will be happy to have it. > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 8:37 PM, Scott Raun > wrote: > >> I've got an old NEC Multisync XE21 to get rid of. > >> > >> Anyone have any suggestions other than my county electronics > >> recycling? > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -- You cannot be a Republican and support universal health care. Are you a Republican? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Handbrake encoded files will let you fit many many more. If you use apple devices, make sure you use the MP4 container. apple devices won't play things in the (technically better) MKV container (by default) for various silly reasons, even though the contained file is H264 encoded in either case. Everything else in the world will play either MP4 or MKV contained files. Handbrake will maintain all subtitles and audio tracks (if you ask it to) and you can script it for bulk conversion. It does a pretty good job at picking the correct (longest) title per DVD. Some Disney DVDs use a copy protection scheme that breaks the DVD standards, and makes the DVD's appear to have 99 tracks, each of varying lengths - and playing the wrong one will result in the movie playing out of order. On these, typically you have to use another DVD player - VLC usually works - but sometimes a real physical one - to determine the correct track number, then ask Handbrake to copy that. But your ISO extraction process might have already stripped the copy protection non-sense, as you mentioned you had removed some other stuff already. From ryan.coleman at cwis.biz Sat Dec 19 17:02:04 2015 From: ryan.coleman at cwis.biz (Ryan Coleman) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 17:02:04 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] streaming videos to iPads from Linux server In-Reply-To: <5674CE1B.9020303@gmail.com> References: <633B0096-D561-4218-AD4C-19523D174D69@cwis.biz> <5674CE1B.9020303@gmail.com> Message-ID: > On Dec 18, 2015, at 9:25 PM, Dan Armbrust wrote: > > Many kids movies (cartoons) compress down even better. This is the entire concept behind the new compression standard at Netflix. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks in advance. > > -- > Brian > Ebenezer Enterprises > > "...That's what Christmas is all about, Charlie Brown." > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKk9rv2hUfA > > http://webEbenezer.net > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > -- Jeff Chapin President, CedarLug, retired President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" President, UNI Scuba Club Senator, NISG, retired -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chapinjeff at gmail.com Sun Dec 20 14:08:05 2015 From: chapinjeff at gmail.com (Jeff Chapin) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 14:08:05 -0600 Subject: [tclug-list] Skipping over the boring parts of podcasts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This monologue is far more accurate -- but neither is appropriate for the list. Please stop. You have been asked repeatedly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvFxWlguBd8 On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Jeff Chapin wrote: > This monologue is far more accurate -- but neither is appropriate for the > list. Please stop. You have been asked repeatedly. > > On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Brian Wood wrote: > >> Sometimes I watch podcasts on http://bsdnow.tv >> and others. Sometimes they will start talking >> about something boring for a while and I wish there >> was a way to jump over that part to the next topic. >> I can slide the bar ahead, but I'm not sure how much >> to move it. Do any podcasts or media players have >> support for this? Thanks in advance. >> >> -- >> Brian >> Ebenezer Enterprises >> >> "...That's what Christmas is all about, Charlie Brown." >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKk9rv2hUfA >> >> http://webEbenezer.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >> > > > -- > Jeff Chapin > President, CedarLug, retired > President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" > President, UNI Scuba Club > Senator, NISG, retired > -- Jeff Chapin President, CedarLug, retired President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" President, UNI Scuba Club Senator, NISG, retired -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'd like to be able to toss Linux on it (or BSD), run a firewall (ipdabales) and pass the traffic to my wireless router. Really only need 2x gigabit ports, and ideally the hardware would handle 1 gig throughput (don't have it, but want to future proof a little), can handle larger NAT tables and IPv6. Hoping to hear thoughts or other peoples experiences with this, thanks! -- Jeremy MountainJohnson Jeremy.MountainJohnson at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mbmiller+l at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 00:52:21 2015 From: mbmiller+l at gmail.com (Mike Miller) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 00:52:21 -0600 (CST) Subject: [tclug-list] a before null In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 18 Dec 2015, gregrwm wrote: > it may well be that sort behaves in accordance with the definition, if > so i say the definition has a bug. "a" should not preceed null. What it said was that when the extension begins with a number, as in .7z or .9 (which was your example), then there is no definition. I agree that seems ridiculous. It obviously is doing something and what it is doing makes no sense to me. Why should -V give unpredictable results under any conditions? Apparently, that was their plan. If you write to the developers, let us know what they say. REPORTING BUGS Report sort bugs to bug-coreutils at gnu.org GNU coreutils home page: General help using GNU software: Report sort translation bugs to Mike