Yes. It is. On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 1:44 AM, <tclug at freakzilla.com> wrote: > Now I haven't read any of the other messages in this thread, but isn't this > exactly what NTP is for? > > On Sat, 3 Jan 2015, paul g wrote: > >> I just performed a soft reboot on the machine. Entered the bios and set >> the >> 24 hour clock to proper 'correct time' and once again upon, logging in >> 'time' was displayed differently/inproperly. The concern here is if 'Bios >> time is off' <--machine clock' . No entity should have or have the right >> to >> proper UTC time. >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________________________ >> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 01:29:19 -0600 >> From: chapinjeff at gmail.com >> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and Linux UTC clock refuse to set at >> the same time. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:55 AM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote: >> Well would you be able to recommend a command besides the >> following command if you were trying to set a system clock to >> tie in with a software clock on a 3.13etc kernel under Debian? >> >> hwclock --hctosys >> >> >> Why do you want another command? >> >> I think the above could have saved me alot of pain because if I >> were to have to have done = sudo sed -i s/UTC=yes/UTC=no/ >> /etc/default/rcS >> >> it would have been stuck in /etc/default/rcS and what about >> updates that could have locked the machine up at >> sometime/somepoint. >> >> >> I'm not sure why you think that. >> >> >> Give me your opinion if you have time please? Emoji >> >> >> I don't understand the question. >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________________________ >> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 00:47:04 -0600 >> From: chapinjeff at gmail.com >> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and Linux UTC clock refuse >> to set at the same time. >> >> Yes. If you use the hwclock command you do not need to use sed >> at all. >> >> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:44 AM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote: >> The command: --> sudo hwclock --systohc <--sets the Bios >> clock to the Software UTC clock without giving any output? >> >> I did not even need to use 'sed' yet. >> >> cool. >> >> Am I right about this? >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________________________ >> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 00:41:26 -0600 >> From: chapinjeff at gmail.com >> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and Linux UTC clock >> refuse to set at the same time. >> >> Many commands in Linux will only output errors. This is >> one of them. >> >> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:39 AM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> The error I expected was an output via --> >> paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ sudo hwclock --systohc >> >> once entered into the terminal as following: >> >> paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ sudo hwclock --systohc >> paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ >> >> was the entire output of the command. I guess if you >> put it that way though it would be like the good >> working 'apt-key list' command on a 3.13 machine vs. >> 3.2 <--why did I bring that up again don't ask just >> don't ask. >> >> I'm waiting for your help. >> >> Thank you. >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________________________ >> >> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 00:32:49 -0600 >> From: chapinjeff at gmail.com >> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and Linux UTC >> clock refuse to set at the same time. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:29 AM, paul g >> <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote: >> Helps alot! >> >> paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ sudo hwclock >> Sat 03 Jan 2015 12:22:06 AM CST >> -0.078578 seconds >> paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ >> >> paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ sudo hwclock >> Sat 03 Jan 2015 12:23:02 AM CST >> -0.051555 seconds >> >> paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ sudo hwclock >> --systohc >> paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ >> >> obviously ^ fails with the --systohc >> extension. >> >> >> What do you mean it obviously fails? I see no error. >> >> >> <--why? <--every time I go into bios and >> change the time via biox I get an incorrect >> time on desktop. I am going to be looking into >> this; i'm about 7 hours off by the way. I >> thank you for your time and your help. >> >> >> Yeah, your hwclock is set to UTC and you live in a >> timezone 7 hours off from UTC. That's to be expected. >> >> >> >> Emoji - paul g >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________________________ >> >> To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 23:42:31 -0600 >> From: kelly.black at penguinpackets.com >> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and Linux >> UTC clock refuse to set at the same time. >> >> Paul, >> To set the system clock to the hardware clock >> hwclock --hctosys >> Other way around: >> hwclock --systohc >> You should be able to check the hardware clock >> by issuing: >> hwclock >> That will give you an idea of how far off the >> hardware clock is. If it is skewed far >> enough, you will probably want to go in to the >> bios on a reboot and update it. If it does >> not stick past power outages, you might want >> to replace the cmos battery on the >> motherboard. >> Hope that helps. >> >> Fri Jan 02 2015 10:11:42 PM CST >> from "paul g" >> <pj.world at hotmail.com> Subject: >> Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and >> Linux UTC clock refuse to set at >> the same time. >> The question is 'how can I set the hardware >> clock to coorolate with the Linux clock'. >> >> My apologies. >> >> Happy New year and thank you with the updatedb >> stuff' meant alot. >> >> paul g >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jeff Chapin >> President, CedarLug, retired >> President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" >> President, UNI Scuba Club >> Senator, NISG, retired >> >> _______________________________________________ TCLUG >> Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jeff Chapin >> President, CedarLug, retired >> President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" >> President, UNI Scuba Club >> Senator, NISG, retired >> >> _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing >> List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jeff Chapin >> President, CedarLug, retired >> President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" >> President, UNI Scuba Club >> Senator, NISG, retired >> >> _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - >> Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jeff Chapin >> President, CedarLug, retired >> President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" >> President, UNI Scuba Club >> Senator, NISG, retired >> >> _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - >> Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > -- Jeff Chapin President, CedarLug, retired President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" President, UNI Scuba Club Senator, NISG, retired