This is all already taken care of, no worries. Well, it'll keep being a problematic situation and will end in (albeit a limited) disaster, which is really the only thing that makes some people actually sit up and take notice, but that's not something I can prevent, so... On Fri, 22 May 2015, Ryan Ware wrote: > Tell your friend to download a decent Windows anti-virus. I recommend NOD32 > from Eset. It has a trial. Run a scan, if it comes up clean your friend > can have peace of mind, if it doesn't come up clean there is a good chance > that NOD will be able to get rid of the crap anyway. > > You friend should obviously encourage the employer to spend a few bucks on > anti viurs. > > > > > On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Clug <tclug at freakzilla.com> wrote: > This is getting more into philosophy and ethics than Linux, but > I'm always up for a discussion. > > Yes, in in ideal world we'd all do what's right. I will also not > that I /did/ specify this is "guerilla support" so I am > obviously aware of this not being an ideal situation. > > In an ideal world, the EMPLOYER would have done the right thing > in the first place - that is, they would have had an > anti-virus/anti-malware tool installed. I should point out this > is a fairly small operation and there is only ONE computer there > (which made ME feel a lot better) - this is the machine used by > my friend. > > This is also the machine that the employer expects my friend - a > very, very non-technical person - to be 100% responsible for. My > friend is skilled with MS Office, but they are expected to do > everything from install software to debugging printer failures. > My friend has to run backups onto their own PERSONAL DRIVES > because if any data gets lost or corrupetd THEY ARE THE ONE > BLAMED. > > A printer failure is what caused this mess in the first place. > My friend tells the boss the (6+ year old inkjet) printer is > broken and that they need to get a new one and/or pay someone to > come look at it. Boss says no, and my friend still gets in > trouble for not printing stuff out. So my friend who is, again, > very non-technical, finds what they THINK is an HP support site > and runs the diagnostic utility they are told will let HP access > the computer... etc, etc. > > And yes, in an ideal world my friend could also quit the hell > out of that job and get a better one, but... > > > > On Thu, 21 May 2015, Ryan Ware wrote: > > The right thing to do would be to tell the employer > so they can fix the > machine properly and be aware that they may have a > malware infested machine > that may be doing bad things on their network and to > other machines. To do > otherwise is irresponsible. The employer may be > much more dissatisfied with > the employee if things drag on and the problem > migrates to other computers > in the organization. > > On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 10:20 PM, Doug Reed > <n0nas at amsat.org> wrote: > I have nothing useful to add regarding a Linux > boot disk image > to run > malware tools on a Windows box. I always > question how recent the > tools > are and how well they are geared to finding > problems on Windows > rather > than Linux. > > I think you already gave the best suggestion, > install portable > versions of as many Windows AV tools as you > can find on a USB > stick. > As Marc said, plan to use multiple tools and > run each one at > least one > more time after it finds no errors, rebooting > between each > test..... > My old routine was to use anti-virus followed > by Ad-Aware and > Spybot > Search & Destroy because each one found > different things. And > the > reboot often brought them back. I'm now using > Malware Bytes in > addition to Spybot S&D and MS Security > Essentials. For > anti-virus I > tend to switch between AVG and whatever else > is free. I don't > let > Norton near any of my machines. > > If you want the last bit of safety, then try > building a Windows > boot > CD or DVD as Andrew suggested and use it with > the USB stick. I > may try > BartPE myself.... The boot disk prevents the > contaminated system > from > executing and the USB stick is easy to update > with the latest > and > greatest. That is my two cents and worth every > penny you paid. > :-) > > Good luck with whatever you do. > > Doug. > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, > Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > >