Mesh is nice. I design and install large systems as part of my day job. > On Aug 22, 2016, at 5:58 PM, Sandwhich Eyes <sandwhicheyes at gmail.com> wrote: > > I really like this wireless mesh stuff. I am very interested. doing some deep reading now. > > http://qmp.cat/Overview <http://qmp.cat/Overview> > > also check out how it has cat in the domain name. facebook flagged it as dangerous so i had click a few pictures of cats and what not to get it to publish. this is the site off of the nyc mesh link from tom poe. > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Sandwhich Eyes <sandwhicheyes at gmail.com <mailto:sandwhicheyes at gmail.com>> wrote: > r hayman very nice. you just can't argue with that! > Should i give people credit for some of these ideas? is that something anyone would want? i think it would build up the > community aspect, because that is exactly what this is. > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 3:50 PM, r hayman <rhayman at pureice.com <mailto:rhayman at pureice.com>> wrote: > Relevancy. > To remain relevant in many job fields, students must learn about open source software and Linux. To prepare our students and our future work force to be relevant when they enter the work force, academia and the business world need to be aligned and that alignment, in many ways is with open source software. > > Running open source or COTS software is seldom a business differentiator today, it may only be a (negative) differentiator based on licensing and support costs. > > Pharmaceutical research, weather forecasting, climate and environment research, simulations of all types, manufacturing, design, you name it, it predominantly runs on Linux and open source. > > For example, visit https://www.top500.org/statistics/list/ <https://www.top500.org/statistics/list/> and filter on TOP500 Release: June 2016; then Category(ies): Operating System, Application Area, and Segments. > > You will find that of the top 500 supercomputer sites in the world, not a single one runs either Windows or Mac OS X. Only 16 - just a hair over 3%, run something other than some obvious distribution of Linux. > > > > On Mon, 2016-08-22 at 15:22 -0500, Rick Engebretson wrote: >> When my kids were in High School I tried working with our school >> district (Mora, MN.) in about 1998 just to get programming taught, >> somewhere. The school used all Macs but had at least one MSWindows 95 in >> some kind of lab. On a day they canceled school because of an ice storm >> I called and they said I could install the QBasic from Windows, along >> with program examples galore. So I left my kids home and drove to town >> and installed it all. I later went to school board meetings and they >> fought me until my kids all graduated. "Political" is an understatement. >> >> I use Linux because I can program it. I don't know how kids can make it >> in the future without knowing electronics and programming. It seems they >> are trying to cripple kids with sports, and retard them intellectually. >> It sure wasn't that way in the 1960s. >> >> Linda Kateley wrote: >>> >>> >>> I started working with my school district about 10 years ago. The >>> problems I find there are always political and never about technology. >>> >>> What worked for me is to find one champion in the system that speaks >>> the administrations language. I found there were a ton of people who >>> wanted to know, just not at the top. >>> >>> I introduced scratch to the elementary STEM school about 5 years ago, >>> https://scratch.mit.edu/ <https://scratch.mit.edu/>. It was the districts first involvement with >>> opensource or community. The project has been very very successful and >>> it opened the doors to more. But then they hired a new superintendent >>> that thought it was stupid so..that happened ;( >>> >>> linda >>> >>> >>> On 8/21/16 10:43 AM, Sandwhich Eyes wrote: >>>> >>>> I have already given one presentation at the Blair Taylor School >>>> with the principal and an IT guy and have been asked to give a follow >>>> up talk to them and the head of the IT department. >>>> They had macbook air for the older kids and ipads for the younger >>>> ones. They bring these home at the end of the school day. This time >>>> they decided to go with cromebooks. It one of the best.. rated or >>>> testing, can't think of an appropriate word, but with the quality of >>>> the teachers out here i am pretty sure they could give my kids sticks >>>> and a box of sand and they would still be well prepared for life on >>>> their own/college. I am 100% positive they will be much better off if >>>> they can learn without restrictions from open source hardware, >>>> software, classes (like MIT offers open courseware) and the ability >>>> to choose, to not be scolded for breaking some license agreement or >>>> for reading and modifying code should that be an interest. I want >>>> them to have Linux. >>>> I have gave a compelling argument in the last meeting. This time I >>>> want to have as many resources available to provide for them, >>>> including reasons why schools frequently choose to not use Linux. >>>> Anything will help. I had quite the presentation last time and the IT >>>> guy didn't know what Unix or BSD 4.4 was; or Linux, BSD, Solaris. >>>> Seems Ubuntu provides computers reloaded with Linux and tablets so >>>> how they didn't find anything about open source or Linux/BSD/ETC is >>>> beyond me. I gave them a live Ubuntu OS on a thumb drive. I wanted to >>>> make some more and use persistence to load up some information to >>>> give to the IT people who are possibly way under informed, to give >>>> them plenty of time on their own to absorb what open source has to >>>> offer; mostly community! >>>> They asked many questions about community. Yes we work together >>>> and keep our favorite distributions alive often without corporate >>>> support! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org <mailto:tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list <http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org <mailto:tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list <http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org <mailto:tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list <http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list> >> > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org <mailto:tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list <http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list> > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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