also i am sure you can imagine how well Linux works with indigenous governments, individuals who are poor, and/or people new to computers. people who are new to computers i will use Linux because of how i seen it affect people who had volunteered at the chamber. i put Linux in as much as i can for people who look to me for advice and to learn. I can see a need for installing windows in a machine for someone who absolutely is convinced that they will miss out if they use Linux since interest is a factor in learning, i just try and remember who they are and try and learn what they end up using it for so i can find open source "alternatives" for then and try and draw their interest in these "alternatives"; even though to me windows is sorta an alternative (one i rarely think about). On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 8:28 AM, Sandwhich Eyes <sandwhicheyes at gmail.com> wrote: > rick e i love your story. i may not be native, never did the dna thing > yet, and from what i understand there is no reason to be offended by > anything you have said. reminds me of the story of hennipen ave you don't > often hear. hennipen ave started out as a deer trail. when you hit uptown > there used to be a lake there towards lyndale. the natives would follow the > deer trail. it became a native trail at that point. eventually it turned > into the road you see today complete with removed lake. > natives have a tendency to kill themselves at an alarming rate. may of > them inwardly dislike themselves and many hate the "invaders" and as i have > spent 20 years immersed in this culture i can see many of the reasons why. > we make them keep their AKC (american kennel club) type rating of 25% or > they are no longer a member of THEIR tribe. to maintain the native status > they must stay within their own tribe to keep it. there is financial > devastation on most reservations, in the USA, and to stay on the land to > keep their tribe alive is torment and trouble. it is failing and it has > been failing for as far back as i can tell from what i have learned. > i encourage all of you to look into this. nothing we can do (?) but it is > important to understand. we tried to have a site to sell goods from the > indigenous cultures so they can have income which is where the trouble all > starts. lack of resources in a small chunk of land; not to mention that the > leaders of these people are often like me and you with no help to > understand how to even build infrastructure. Yes prior lake is close to the > city so they get money from the casino, even with all that money you would > be surprised how difficult it is to understand and build infrastructure on > a small square when they are simply people like me and you. we would go > reservation to reservation, ahhhhh.. it is hard for people who really don't > want to ask for help to fully grasp what is expected from them in their > respective gov positions, especially without resources. > > i am glad that the opening speech encouraged more conversation. i am going > to work on a 3 ring folder now. may call some of the larger businesses in > this state, and get some contacts for whomever wants, to call and verify > that the apparantly invisible and illusive Linux actually exists and skills > translate to jobs. translates to jobs is my main focus. no code lock is > another problem that i wish to document. who knows anything about this EPIC > system that the hospitals use. any one have any ammo to bash this including > code lock; do they still use xp with those systems? ( i hope someday when i > type xp and other wndows type things that people will be like WHAT? what is > an xp..... > > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Iznogoud <iznogoud at nobelware.com> wrote: > >> Maybe TCLUG and the Penguins can have a VR setup at next years Northern >> Spark. >> >> Or better yet, see if a 3rd Thursday at MIA can have some "do crap with >> open >> source software" activity. Takes planning and volunteers (do not look at >> me). >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20160826/b1392a38/attachment.html>