Woops, sorry for saying nothing in reply. His lab was in "Temporary North Court Engineering." He had the whole building, an Army barracks, one of two. Packed to the ceiling. There were 2 rooms combined into a serious computer lab from earliest tubes to a (IIRC) a PDP-4. A front end loader was raised to his second story office window letting him know they meant business. I had moved a bunch of my stuff to lowertown, St. Paul, to push the fiber optics. 3,500 sq.ft. last used as a speakeasy during prohibition I think. My friend, a VietNam Vet, opened the St. Paul Union Depot each morning chasing hobos out with a gun. A lot of Otto's lab went to the Bakken Museum. Some went to St. Paul. Some, who knows? He had cases of Civil War pictures, never developed, from an amputee who liked Otto's electric pain relief. Medtronic, Honeywell, etc. had roots there. Refrigeration galore. Like I said, 2 floors packed with science history. But Otto didn't know modern biophysical chemistry. Really, nobody did. Today I run into researchers without knowing it, like my son-in-law's brother and professor father. But I think the game changer will be fiberglass roofing that delivers roof insolation out a glass wire cable and cools a billion houses in India while making solar fuel (U researchers also interested). That's why I think this Jens Thoms Torring (Of XForms) is interesting; he's a chemical spectroscopy physicist in Germany, and computers are a tool, not a best friend. But you seem totally right about the OpenGL stuff. Just don't think old guys can learn it. Iznogoud wrote: > A person of Dayton's leadership could only be a Slackware user... *fist bump* > Cheers Brian. > > Rick, I do not know how you managed to do that brain-dump in your email but it > was impressive. As I was reading it I thought I was understanding it, and then > I realized that I finished all paragraphs being much more confused about both > the email and the thread! But I would like to know, was the MSI's _former_site_ > at the dude's lab's location? The former site was across the river from where > I am now, and I really liked that building (requiring no external heating, not > even for the heated parking underneeth the computers). The present location of > the MSI is in Walter library, which was renovated about 10 years or so ago. > > Did you do anything with those widgets and the software you wanted to build? > > > PS> I thought the list was idle for too long. > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >