I have been very wrong before, but I give the guy more credit for his efforts to grow as an individual. One example mistake was my effort as an environmental scientist sitting out here in rural Minnesota and trying to get involved with the "Green Party" only to learn they were just a bunch of Minneapolis communists full of anger, none an environmentalist. I got kicked off their list several times for trying to talk about clean air, water, and cellulosic biofuels. They still want donations, but most are wolves in sheep clothing. So I'm not a judge of anything. From my brief reading of his situation, he has a health issue and is stuck with 4 little kids to care for alone. He's trying to find out how to grow linux skills and become part of a constructive discussion and get involved. He vented frustration improperly here, but I also say things while picking rock venting frustration that scares my dog. Half you urban lunatics drive your car like WMDs. Some rural crazies vent frustration shooting off a hundred rounds of automatic ammo. Too many others suck drugs containing who knows what. So (for now) I think he just wanted to find his peers and learn linux in a supportive community, and it didn't exist. BTW, I just figured out why the old XForms toolkit "cursors" demo uses modern cursors instead of the old bitmaps. It took me a while to learn there is an Xcursor library that automatically searches given directory paths for themes and icon files. It won't make "Twitter" headlines, but pretty impressive how well designed this linux is. Iznogoud wrote: > In the good old days of IRC, Sandwich would not have lasted more than 10 > minutes in any given chatroom. "Kick-ban" would be the button for him, > mostly for practical reasons. I will not miss the brain-dump paragraphs; it > is easier to insect dumped cores than reading those. > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >