Under Windows, I used to use the NewsBin reader program. It was great! But they don't have a Linux version and I didn't want to fool with WINE. So what I'm currently using as a binary news reader is SABnzbd+. I use it with my Usenetserver account and it works fine. But I've never tried to post with it, I don't think it supports posting. <http://www.newsgroupreviews.com/thunderbird.html> <http://www.fastusenet.org/thunderbird-tutorial.html> The first link just confirms Thunderbird can be your newsreader. The second link is how one service provider wants Thunderbird setup for use with their servers. It should provide a fairly complete idea of how you need to set it up for grc.com. Step 9 specifically sets up account name and password for remote server access. Since you are already using Thunderbird, I doubt you'd gain anything by switching to Seamonkey for combined browser-email-newsreader...... Doug Reed. -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin "When seconds count, help is only minutes away." Does Gun Control protect you, the criminal, or the Government?